RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1766

RDT Right Now #1766

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Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 02:44:34 -0800
Subject: RDT Right Now #1766
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 02 : Issue #1766 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o News from the Capitol [ Violet <fluffy@annihilist.com> ] Re: RDT Right Now #1749 [ "Simon Booth" <sbooth1@satx.rr.com> ] Re: be it live or undead [ Mark Alexander <alexander750@earthl ] Have Yourself a Merry Little Whateve [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ] [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] day off To read more about these items, visit the list archives. [ ================================================================== ] Today's fuzzy ferret assistant: Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 18:51:14 -0800 From: Violet <fluffy@annihilist.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: News from the Capitol The United States Supreme Court has ruled that there cannot be a nativity scene in Washington, DC this Christmas. This isn't for any religious reason; they simply have not been able to find three wise men and a virgin in the nation's capitol. There was no problem, however, finding enough asses to fill the stable. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 01:49:02 -0600 From: "Simon Booth" <sbooth1@satx.rr.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Re: RDT Right Now #1749 Hello! Cyndi wrote: > heh heh heh! :D I woke up at 12:00 today.. lol.. I gotta stop > messing up my schedule when I don't have school.. Want to be sure to be up early? Get a dog ;) re: Sonic the Hedgehog: > pfft, yeah! he's BLUE. :D So if he's suffering hypoxia, how can you tell? ;) So Guinnevere has been dodging the Sandmen for for years now. Wow! ;) Never going to Carousel ;) Where in Texas did you go on your road trip? later! Simon -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 09:04:44 -0600 From: Mark Alexander <alexander750@earthlink.net> To: "NOAA's new and improved tornado mix" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Re: be it live or undead In RDTRN 1765, Brian Cooper wrote: > (...) Rock definitely was dead by the early > 80's. It was washed away by pop, the New Romantic movement (basically > electronica) and, as you say, the "hair bands". I never saw hair bands > as > rock as they had metal tendencies and were more serious about their > look > than their music. Throwaway metal if you like. The only music that > resembled rock in the 80's is what would be called "prog rock" these > days. > If you're referring to the likes of Depeche Mode and the Cure, I wouldn't call that stuff rock at all...let's not go there! I can only surmise Australian terminology is different. Progressive rock, in the US, was a label applied to bands like Emerson, Lake and Palmer, pre-Downes-and-Horn Yes, Pink Floyd, the Alan Parsons Project, Boston, and so forth (including, alas, less worthy bands like Styx and Kansas). I've never heard of anything from the 80s being called that. > (...) Bands like > The Vines and The Strokes sound like they stepped straight out of the > 70's. > There's no new angle and the sound is only being promoted as fresh as > the > traditional purchasers of music, the 15-25 year old demographic, > haven't > really heard it before. Not to mention the White Stripes and Ryan Adams, with which I've been force-fed at work. Bleaghh. I'd rather eat veggie pizza. And what's so great about Wilco and the Old 97s? Retro country-rock? American skiffle? Sorry...I didn't get it then, and I don't get it now. > If you think the new music scene is dead in your part of the world, it > died > here in the late 90's when the state governments allowed pokies (slot > machines) into pubs. (...) Here it's a member of the Big Seven: Clear Channel, a subsidiary (along with DirecTV, the leading satellite TV vendor here) of General Motors, which recently bought out Ticketmaster. Apart from state lotteries and casinos, most live venues here don't have gambling--and many Indian and charity "casinos" (bingo parlors, for the most part) don't have provisions for live shows. In America Ticketmaster controls access to the majority of live venues, from hole-in-the-wall grunge clubs all the way up to stadia. This size makes them the Wal-Mart of the business: they are so large as to effectively become their own competition, muscling everyone else out--and thus able to dictate who gets what gigs. Only in the largest cities are indies hanging on. > Hell, if you'd said to me a year ago I'd be listening to rap I would > have > said "fuck you", but now it seems to be the only interesting scene. All rap does is drive me to a sickening rage. "Word up, rotate keys to launch, nuke them ho's and bitches, yo!"--the war between the sexes escalated to apocalyptic proportions. But then, The Man doesn't want you "acting white"; better to be gangstas, and thus give The Man an excuse to wash the streets with your blood, when you've finished doing it to each other. Rap, too, is a commodity, and one as thoroughly toxic as junk food. If there really is a "conspiracy" (such as it is) against minorities and the poor in America, it is that: selling 'em the rope to hang themselves with. Oh well, there's always (real) jazz. And Tori. Estraven. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 14:34:40 -0500 From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Have Yourself a Merry Little Whatever You May Celebrate.... Yes, I am still alive. I'm done with school (an A for photography, a B for Video Production) and have been busy with artwork for presents. I'm doing a kinda neat concept I saw in a Marshall Fields catalog, only mine is much more complex. I do a watercolor/pastel of the Little Prince standing on his planet and then print out an appropriate quote on a transparency. My daughter has asked me to do one of Pooh Bear for my Granddaughter's room. But because I'm using at least 5 layers of color, it takes forever to complete one. I won't even begin to discuss framing costs. I've been depressed this season. I put up my little 2 foot artificial tree and wrapped the gifts I bought in huge boxes so it looks like a wonderful display of Ugly American Capitalism. But that hasn't helped me get into the spirit. I'm in the second stave of "A Christmas Carol" and can only relate to Scrooge as far as my feeling go. Bah Humbug. I believe in Santa Claus. I believe in Christmas Joy. But I also believe the world is going to hell in a handbasket. On the cheerful note, I'd better end. I'll try to post in a better mood the next time. Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when Everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say And I have always been a Fairy. www.bethcoulter.com o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o *** Call Me Shorty digest *** To POST messages to this list: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Can't figure out how to SUB, UNSUB, or CHANGE ADDRESSES? Send a message to <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "help" as the subject. Digest PROBLEMS or QUESTIONS? Contact: <admin@torithoughts.org> Want your BIRTHDAY announced on RDTRN in 2002? Visit the registration form located at http://www.torithoughts.org/RDTRN/birthday.html RDTRN SITE AND ARCHIVES: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn RDTRN'S SUBLIMINAL THOUGHTS (you can't see this): http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/subliminal/ For information on joining the TORITOUR list: Send a blank message to <tour@torithoughts.org> and you'll receive an instruction file. Any self-respecting Toriphile is on The Registry. 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