RDT Right Now #1977

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Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 00:25:01 -0800
Subject: RDT Right Now #1977
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Really Deep Thoughts Right Now			Volume 05 : Issue #1977

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              o        What will become of me,            o
              o       Become of her, become of we?"       o
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                                         Tori Amos, "Thoughts"
In this issue:
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  Stories                               [ bachusridlon59@aol.com ]
  Re: RDT Right Now #1975               [ bachusridlon59@aol.com ]
  RE: cyndi's LJ rant                   [ Roxanne Rieske <rokzane@comcast.net ]
  A little turkey day fun               [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ]



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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:19:57 -0500
From: bachusridlon59@aol.com
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: Stories

Being from the same area as she is originally, story telling is an art.
Many call it exaggeration, lying, but, we tell what we want, always
making the story better, and also keeping things private. Just a
thought...

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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:25:24 -0500
From: bachusridlon59@aol.com
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: Re: RDT Right Now #1975

Hi,
  It's amazing how unrecognized someone as talented as she, is under
promoted. I think as fans, we do all we can by going to the concerts,
buying the music, writing letters such as yours. She's a brilliant
business woman, so, I am sure she knows what she is doing.
 Patsy

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 Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 05 : Issue #1975

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 o Become of her, become of we?" o
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 some help, please? [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ]



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 Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 00:53:51 -0500
 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com>
 To: RDTRN@torithoughts.org
 Subject: some help, please?

 okay, I know I'm not the only one who is, to say the least, a
 little bit disappointed in what Epic is doing for Tori. lack of
 promotion, two crappy videos (put to good songs, mind you) and so on.
 and I know a lot of people who are making posts here on occasion
  have been disappointed with her work (whether it was SW, TBK or both)
as
 well, so.. well lemme just get to the point..
 I made an LJ post about this whole lack-of-promotion thing, and
 I'm not getting very much help from anyone on my friends list, so I'm
  going to ask in here--or rather, I'll just paste the LJ post that I
made
 in here for everyone to read:

 I, as a Tori Amos fan, am fucking sick and fed up with the shitty
  promotion that her record labels (both Atlantic and Sony) have been
doing
 for her.

 and to be honest, I think she needs to dump their asses and go through
 us--the fans--for what the record label WON'T do.

 you know.. music videos.. tour/TV/concert performances/appearances..
 album releases.. and everything in between.

 I'm very much tempted to fire off a petition to pass around the
 Toriphile/Ears-With-Feet community for signatures.

 and I'm not just being dumb and goofy here, you know, I'm dead fucking
 serious. the Sweet The Sting video, for example, could have been a
 million times better if I'd directed (and edited) the damn thing!

 need I say more? I'm fed up with the shitty promotion she's getting, no
 matter what record label she's on. needless to say, I think all major
 record labels need to choke on their own piss and die. not the people,
 mind you, the CORPORATIONS that said people work for.

 yes, I'm a bit pissed off in regards to this, so humor me.

 need I say more? what can I do? I'm sitting here trying to rack
  my brain enough to decide on what to do--whether to fire up a petition
or
  just write letters and encourage other people to do the same, but I
don't
 even know where to begin. or maybe I do, but I can't think of it right
 now.
 can ANYBODY help me here? Tori doesn't deserve this crap and I
  want to help make it not be such a shitty situation. she signed onto
Epic
 to get away from Atlantic's crappy treatment, and she's not getting
 treated much better, at least in terms of promotion, and I'll say it
  again--the Sweet The Sting video made me want to weep because I very
much
 could have done it better. argh!
 so can ANYONE help me out here? anybody?

 Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford
 "I know we're dying / and there's no sign of a parachute / we scream in
 cathedrals / why can't it be beautiful / why does there gotta be a
 sacrifice?" -- Tori Amos




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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:53:45 -0700
From: Roxanne Rieske <rokzane@comcast.net>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: RE: cyndi's LJ rant

Well Cyndi,

I have to ask....did it ever occur to you that the Sweet the Sting video
is what it is because that's the way Tori wanted it? Maybe it's not Sony
at all; maybe it's Tori. Maybe Tori isn't into making video's anymore (I
mean come on, her video's never make it anywhere. I was totally shocked
when the ASFT video made it on VH1's hit list). All through the 90's her
videos were almost never played. So rather than sell out and make shitty
main stream videos that the public digs but she hates, maybe she would
rather not make them at all. Maybe the two she did for the The
Beekeeper, she did at the urging of Epic, but I know Tori makes the
ultimate decisions about her music and any videos she makes.

I thought The Beekpeeper was very well promoted this time around; thanks
to her promotion company that she and John Witherspoon started (The
Bridge Entertainment Group). Tori and her staff are in a large part
responsible for her promotion now adays.

So maybe you should bitch at Tori (or her promotion company).

Roxanne

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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:17:35 -0500
From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com>
To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: A little turkey day fun

http://www.planetdan.net/pics/misc/georgerag.swf

He is freefalling and you can help him, or hurt him by using the mouse.  Go
have fun.

Much thanks to my aussie friend for showing this to me.

Beth




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