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Date:
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RDT Right Now #1639
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Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 02 : Issue #1639
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Tori Amos, "Thoughts"
In this issue:
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Two minutes to midnight [ Brian Cooper <ByteMe@smartchat.net. ]
pagans again [ Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.de ]
stuff [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ]
wheeeee!!! :) [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ]
lots of stuff... [ "Gabriela Kulka" <gabakulka@wp.pl> ]
wide awake and dreaming [ Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.de ]
Re: RDT Right Now #1637 [ "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmai ]
just a spoonful of sugar helps the m [ "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmai ]
Bells For Her [ horsefeather99@webtv.net (Ben) ]
the tootsie roll center of a tootsie [ burning leaves <jewella_deville@jun ]
[ =================> On This Day In RDT History <================= ]
On June 3rd in 1993: why does the record company keep putting
all those pesky b-sides on Tori's singles? Is it a nice way to
get more songs, or is it just a rip-off? Also: Tori's tour
itinerary for most of 1992.
In 1998, a member posted about the first leg of Tori's
"Choirgirl" tour, which was taking place in the UK at the time.
He wrote:
"The new plugged-in Tori is awesome. You'd think she'd
always played with a band, she was so obviously enjoying
being accompanied by them. It helped her concentrate on her
vocal performance more I think. Her range seems to be
increasing all the time."
Also, we found out that Tori was a little worried about what
her new mother-in-law would think of her being on the cover of
"Q" wearing nothing but a layer of gold paint:
"Amos says she told her husband to make sure that his mother
didn't see the magazine - but it was too late.
"'He said, "She's got it. She walked in there and got it,
and she loves it,"' Amos reports."
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Today's fuzzy ferret assistant: Beth Winegarner
Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives:
http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives
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Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 21:59:49 +1000
From: Brian Cooper <ByteMe@smartchat.net.au>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: Two minutes to midnight
So is everyone here getting a little freaked by what's going on between
India and Pakistan? Unfortunately it looks like my prediction for this year
is coming true. Forgetting the nukes on both sides, if they do go to war
it'll be a long and bloody campaign which will make the bloodbath between
Muslims and Hindus in the state of Punjab look like a picnic.
I actually heard a good idea from a Kashmiri in that Kashmir should be made
a state independent of both India and Pakistan. At least then there won't
be a reason to fight. But that's not likely to happen and both countries
are too proud to back down. To think things were looking good until a few
weeks ago.
I saw this on a message from YahooGroups.
>------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-->
>Kwick Pick opens locked car doors,front doors, drawers, briefcases,
>padlocks, and more. On sale now!
*rolls eyes* Are they even vetting their sponsors? I don't think this one
is very appropriate. It sounds more like this sponsor is selling tools for
burglary to me. Why would the average citizen require lockpicks?
Now for a change of speed.
Linda declared in #1637...
>Hey Coops, I'll do you for five dollars. How's that for a birthday present?
Sounds like a bargain I can't refuse, except it will cost me about $2,000
in airfares to take it up. Fancy a west coast holiday in September? I'll
meet you there!
Dani wrote about her student's application form exercise:
>-- "extremly sexy" (sic)
>-- "very large dick hangs to low" (sic)
>
>When I glanced at their forms before they submitted them, instead of
>creating a ruckus over it (like they wanted), I merely said, "guys, it's
>actually a federal offence to LIE on an application form," and walked away.
Did you check the veracity of their statements? Are you sure they were
lying? If you cast your mind back to the last census, it was a federal
offence to lie on the form. There was that idea of people writing down
"Jedi Knight" as a religion to make it recognised as a religion. The
government then declared it would prosecute anyone who did that. Crying
shame, really.
Brian
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 10:37:47 -0700
From: Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.devin.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: pagans again
Thought some might be interested in this, written by an online friend:
"5 Things You Can Do Which Improve Paganism As A Whole"
http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?journal=riordan&itemid=71166
Really well done.
Beth
--
"Hamish: Is your father a ghost, or are you conversing with the almighty?
Stephen: In order to find his equal, an Irishman is forced to talk to God.
Yes, Father! The Almighty says, 'Don't change the subject!'" (Braveheart)
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 16:14:38 -0400
From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: stuff
our favorite Succubus Barbie said: "I'm getting very sick of all the
tragedy. I think I'm going to go and swear now very
loudly...outside...at the moon."
I'd do it with you, but it's not out right now.. that sucks,
Megan..
couldn't find much else to respond to in here, but there's my
something.. :) anyway, I'm outtie.. *waves at the lovely Arty Turners*
Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford (Keyyooo on ICQ and IRC, Keyyooo1 on AIM)
http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ --
http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ --
http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/
Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do.
Not. Describe. Myself."
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 16:16:42 -0400
From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: wheeeee!!! :)
*~!~*You*~!~*
Full Name(as it appears on your birth certificate): Cyndi S. Crawford.
Birthdate: October 2, 1981
Hometown: the city I was born in? Oklahoma City. ^^
Where you live now: somewhere in GA. :D
Parents: George and Jessika
Siblings: Deanna and Kenneth
Pets: Skeeter, Stoney, (dogs) and Jasmine. (cat)
Hobbies: writing stories, making music vids, chatting with ppl on the
net, avoiding mental French guys who proclaim me as the girl of their
dreams after only three emails to me (two of which being retarded
e-cards) *blah*
School: Atlanta Art Institute
School mascot: um..... an artist, I guess.. ^^
Grade: about to go into quarter 3.. still in Freshman year officially..
*~!~*FAVORITES*~!~*
Color: BLUE.
Animal: as far as pets, I prefer my dogs over my cat. :P
Friends: favorite friends? pshaw.. I don't like to pick favorites. :)
Car: mine.
Vacation spot: the ones I've been to.. I'd have to say Oklahoma..
ESPECIALLY when we go down to Lake Texoma, ride on the boat, go tubing..
come back.. ride four-wheelers for a few hours.. and then go to the beach
at night and set off fireworks.. I LOVE it.
Country: mine I guess.. (USA)
Food: anything that doesn't make me sick.
Fast food restaurant: hmm... Wendy's.. or Taco Bell.. (this is speaking
for AT HOME..).. in OK.. definitely Sonic's.
Restaurant: anywhere that serves *good* Thai food..
Drink: fizzy - Code Red.. not fizzy - gatorade.
Thing to do when you're bored: write.. bug Meejay or Jonnie if they're
on.. blare Tori Amos from my stereo..
Person to talk to: Jonnie and Meejay. :)
Person to hang out with: being as I have hardly any not-on-the-net
friends, I have to prolly say.. Roxy.. from school.
Boy name: Michael David or some similar variation..
Girl name: Renee Brownlee or something else..
Store/clothing brand: um.. prolly Hot Topic, I guess.. *shrug*
TV Show: The Simpsons and Daria and Animaniacs.. I don't watch much TV.
Parent: pshaw.. I'm not gonna pick. :)
Sibling: *points at above question*
Sport: I don't watch sports, but if I play, then.. definitely basketball.
^^
*~!~*Would you rather....(and you can't just put"neither"!!)*~!~*
Fall into a pool of sharks,or fall into a bed of crabs: I'd rather fall
into a bed of boiled-and-ready-to-eat crab legs. ^^
Jump out of a burning building,or jump out of a plane: hmm.. I'll go with
the same answer Michelle gave.. I'd rather jump out of a plane with a
parachute.
Go into a sunken ship not knowing what you might find,or go into a cave
with who knows what, living in it: uh.. I'll go into the cage with plenty
of floodlights.. hang 'em up, plug 'em into a generator.. turn the
generator on.. and go exploring!
Find a million billion dollars in gold coins, or find a million billion
dollars in diamonds: it wouldn't matter, being that they would be equal
to the same amount, but I'd rather find 'em in diamonds. :)
Meet the man/woman of your dreams and have to give up your dream job,or
get your dream job and make millions of dollars,but never meet "the one":
I'd rather have my perfect man than the dream job cuz I know I'm gonna be
doing my dream job anyway. :D
*~!~*What comes to mind when you HeAr.....*~!~*
Hottie: lol.. um.. me and Mich talking about a hottie, etc lol..
Summer: going to Oklahoma! ^^
Turtle: the turtle that Kenneth, Connie and I saw in the water underneath
the Ninja rollercoaster at Six Flags.. and the fish too..
Love: passion.
Dog: KC--my bro's dog.. *gush!*
Winter: Tori Amos' song.
Porta-Potty: ick. no.
Pink: *sings* I'm.... comin' up so ya better get this party started!
Princess: Meejay! ^^
Baseball: the Braves.
Best friend: I think of my best friends.
Mall: Hot Topic and jawbreakers!! :D
Snakes: Muscles.. Michael Jackson's snake.
Brothers/Sisters: I think of my own brother and sister.
Farm: Tori Amos holding a piglet.. and then cuz I'm thinking of the
piglet, I think of that movie Babe.. and.. whatever.
*~!~*friends*~!~*
Best friend: Jon and Meej..
2nd Best friend: all the rest of 'em. ^^ I don't pick first and second
choices though.. but I am closest to Jon and Meej.
Who do you hang out with the most: does the net count?
Who do you love the most: as I said, I don't pick favorites.
Who do you come to with all of your problems: anybody who is willing to
listen to me.
Who do you talk to on the internet the most: Meej and Jonnie, definitely.
Who makes you laugh the most: Meej certainly is the comical one. ^^
Who do you fight with or have problems with the most: I try not to fight.
the problems bit all depends on my mood anyway, though.
Who do you think you will definitely be friends forever with(and don't
just put"all of them"!): hmm let's see... Jonnie, Meejay, the #mjfans
reunion group ppl, Michelle (even tho we're cousins already), the
RDTRNers, Roxy, Lekia.. everyone getting this list. ^^
Who have you known the longest: the #mjfans reunion group ppl. :D
Who do you cry with: I've had some convos with Meej and Jonnie while in
tears.
Who do you have the most in common with: Meej and I are so different and
yet so alike.. I can't name her tho.. so I can't really pick.. rofl..
*~!~*Relationships*~!~*
If you're single....
Who is your crush(full name): I'm not exactly single.
If you could be with anyone,who would it be:
What does your crush look like:
What is the best thing about them:
How long have you been single: I'm not.
Do you like being single,or would you rather be taken: having a man is
more fun at times.
If you're taken....
By whom: Jonnie. ^^
How long have you been together: shoot.. almost a year now.. it will be
by July or August..
Do you love them: of course.
What do they look like: like youuuuu need to know! :D seriously.. brown
hair, brown eyes, sweet face, cute smile. :)
What is the best thing about them: he loves me. :)
Are they someone you could bring home to the parents: *I* think so.
If you're single OR taken.....
Have you ever been in love: I certainly would like to say so.
If so,with who: *smug grin*
How far have you gone: kisses. lotsssss of 'em. :)
How far are you willing to go: as an unmarried girl, no further than
kisses.
*~!~*Last Words*~!~*
What did you think of this survey: *shrug* something to do.. I SHOULD be
doing some homework tho.
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 23:48:37 +0200
From: "Gabriela Kulka" <gabakulka@wp.pl>
To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: lots of stuff...
Hello all (and each separately).
Cyndi wrote about the murderers' case:
and mentioned the "Cain's mark" as a certain idea. Well, problem is THAT is
what th petition's about . It's about not granting them anonimity - I
believe.
>...they'd still have to face the shame of being
murderers.. and yet other than that, would still hopefully lead ordinary
lives, provided they had good protection to keep them from being killed
themselves. What do you guys think?...<
First of all, I don't think the fear of lynch etc. is the only factor. I
mean... let me put forward a horrific example, using this List as an model
of society (heh. oh boy). Let's say I do something abominably horrible, me
Gaba. What might that be? Let's say I kill Tori. Can you think of something
more horrid? Good. Now, what we're saying here is "why don't I wear a badge
with my name and what I've done right on my forehead and face the shame for
my despicable deed.... and yet other than that, will still *hopefully lead
an ordinary life* on this here *list*, provided I have good protection to
keep me from being killed myself."
See what I mean. All crimes aside, if we're discussing a solution - a
criminal record tatooed on anyone's forhead will effectively close
oportunities to be any kind of part of society. Including paying dues to it.
ummmm... I hope this example won't haunt me.
I can almost see it in the future digest-opening summaries: "June 2nd. In
2002 a crackpot Tori death-threat was put forward by a somewhat silly
poster." :-O :-O
;-)
Guess I'm in a black mood.
*subject change*
Having read Beth's post which included Neil Gaiman's journal entry, I am
presently having a love fit over the man. nyyyyyaaaarrrggghhhh *giggle* Such
great news! (I mean... yeah I know... she's made an album... it'll be
released... what's all the squealing about ;-) ) BUT... the fact that this
lucky mofo has heard some of it - is both yummy and enfuriating.
Not sure if I can make it till september. ;)
Koba typed, among other immeasurably fascinating things:
*frog-stuffing spooge-towel*
I just needed that reposted. I am a language *fan* - I have that luxury, as
a foreigner. And this combination is unique, thankyou Koba.
******
Winterlion's questionnaire went something like this:
1. I think beavers work too hard. -- Not around here, unfortunately.
2. I use shoe polish to excess. -- Well, it *is* Polish, so...
3. God is love. -- yes. but it doesn't work the other way around. Isn't that
funny?
4. I like mannish children. -- mannish? as opposed to... girlish? Girlish
works for me. so NO.
5. I have always been diturbed by the sight of Lincoln's ears. -- I've seen
worse.
6. I always let people get ahead of me at swimming pools. -- Never.
7. Most of the time I go to sleep without saying goodbye. --I try not to,
but due to my indecently late nighty-night hours the "going to bed"
operation is a top-secret one.
8. I am not afraid of picking up door knobs. -- Interesting question. No.
But alike many other seemingly invisible-for-their-frequent-use objects in
our lives they hold something of a fascination whem you look at the...
separately.
9. I believe I smell as good as most people. -- Better. So I've heard. ;-)
10. Frantic screams make me nervous. -- Definately.
11. It's hard for me to say the right thing when I find myself in a room
full of mice. -- A room FULL of mice is far better than a room with a single
little mouse hiding you-don't-know-where. The suspence is killing me.
12. I would never tell my nickname in a crisis. -- Why not? I've got a
dozen. I can always disown that particular one. ;-)
13. A wide necktie is a sign of disease. -- Depends on a neck it's tied to.
;-)
14. As a child I was deprived of licorice. -- I love it so I can easily say
there never was enough ( actually, there wasn't much around till my teenage
years).
15. I would never shake hands with a gardener. --- Soil is cool! I totally
wouldn't mind shaking dirty gardening hands, preferably scratched on
rosebushes (*Hi Steve*) ;-)
16. My eyes are always cold. -- Nope. But my nose sometimes is. That's close
enough?
7. Cousins are not to be trusted. -- False.
18. When I look down from a high spot, I want to spit.-- No, I grab the
barrier. Slight vertigo here.
19. I am never startled by a fish. -- I am continuesly startled by my own
fish. It's alive!
20. I have never gone to pieces over the weekend. -- ha. haha.
hahahahahahaaaahahahahaha. FAAAAALSE!
:-)
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Have a nice day everyone.
Gabriela
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 17:34:06 -0700
From: Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.devin.com>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: wide awake and dreaming
Brian asked recently:
> Has anyone ever had a dream where they've woken up, then
> actually woke up to find that they dreamt they woke up?
This happens to me quite often, although, like Cyndi, I suspect it happens
now and again to almost everyone. Here are a couple fairly recent examples:
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May 10
I dreamed that I was in the living room of the house I grew up in,
the major gathering room. A few friends were over, although I don't
remember which ones anymore. There was a knock at the door, and when I
went to it I could see there was a large group gathered on the porch and
spilling down into the yard. I let them in. The first few in the door were
carrying a dead man on a wooden stretcher -- I'm pretty sure
he was someone I knew although I don't recognize him. He was dressed
in slacks and long shirtsleeves, plus a tie; he had short
cutly dark brown hair, a moustache and goatee. He was maybe 6' tall (if he
had been standing) and with a good musculature, thick but not fat. The men
carrying him laid him at one end of the room. Others brought in food and
drink; soon the room was crowded with maybe 30 or more people. All
were dressed in suits or nice dresses, and looked as though they
were from another era, the 1940s maybe. They began singing songs and at
some point I recognized the scenario as an Irish wake. I felt terribly sad
because I hadn't known, until this point, that the guest of honor was dead
-- he was a young man, in his late 20s or early 30s.
People continued singing and clapping and preparing food; I also somehow
understood that they were going door-to-door, a roving wake.
[other nightmare that happened after this, in which someone cut my
hair short without my permission, omitted]
At that point I woke up, but I was still in dream. I woke up in my
bedroom in the house I grew up in, and felt my hair.
It was still long; I was relieved. I got up and dressed and went out
in the living room, where some friends were hanging out and talking. There
was a knock at the door. I went to look out the window
in the door, and the same group of people from my Irish wake dream
were outside waiting. I opened up the door and let them in. They carried
in the same man on the same stretcher and redid the whole thing,
except the second time, it was clearly a dramatization -- not real. Still,
it was so exactly the same as the dream I had just had
(which I did not entirely remember until having it happen a second time)
that it was still very upsetting. I went through the entire wake
again, and then I woke up.
=======================================================================
This next one wasn't as much about dreams within dreams as
moving through realms, although it felt very similar to the process of
moving in and out of dreams.
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September 7, 2001
I dreamed I was at work and [a friend] was hanging out with me
when [another friend] came by to visit. She came in and hugged
us both, and then suddenly [a classmate] was there,
with a boyfriend I don't know. A few more people showed up, I think from
my school days, and at some point I think Shannen Doherty (the
actress) turned up as well. We decided to go see a movie (or maybe
just I did).
In the movie, Shannen was starring with Alyssa Milano. They
were walking along in the film, then went into someone's house. Alyssa
went into the bathroom and then suddenly I was in the movie
too, and Shannen and I were attacked by these guys who kept trying to stab
us with hypodermic needles. I was very frightened, but somehow I
kept breaking off the needles before the guy got them stuck
into me. Shannen managed to stab one of the guys in an artery in his foot,
and he passed out. We waited, not putting pressure on the wound, until
he bled to death. The carpet in the room was soaked with his
blood. I remember the silence there was as we were waiting.
At some point I managed to slip into another world - several in
fact. I don't remember them all anymore. In one I was walking along one of
the bridges over the bay - one with two levels. It seemed to be partly
submerged in the bay on the lower level, and
at one point the top level had sunk/fallen onto the lower one, and
it too was slightly underwater, so my (bare?) feet
were getting wet walking along it.
I think I then got into yet another "world" that was just kind of
swampy water. My legs were now submerged, and had been so for so long that
they were covered with a thin film of algae. I was walking here when someone
stopped me. I don't remember who now. There was a woman who was pleasant to
me, and was slightly bigger in size than I am. I think there was a small
man, perhaps elf-sized. We sat down on a fallen-over pillar of some kind. It
was night. In the distance I could see a giant man, dressed like a giant in
a sort of short brown toga and carrying a club. In the distance he looked
like something out of a painting, glowing faintly. He came toward us, and I
was afraid, but he turned out to be very nice. I tried to ask whether there
was a normal size for people in this place, and they did not seem to
understand my answer. The whole time, my legs were in the water up to the
knee, but I don't remember anything - like fish or other animals - in the
water.
Then at some point I managed to find myself back in the "film"
with Shannen and we tried to remember where we'd lost Alyssa - found her
in the bathroom having a cigarette - and I kept just coming out of various
worlds or levels until I was awake again.
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By the way, the above one, and one I had the following night,
were extremely potent and felt "prescient," as some of my
dreams do. The one I had Sept. 8 involved a Middle Eastern man
taking parts of people's souls out of their bodies, experimenting
with them, and then putting them back in. It's open to interpretation, but
the fact that I had both that one and the Sept. 7 post-apocalyptic one
were especially chilling when Sept. 11 happened. A lot of my friends had
really unusual dreams around this time.
Brian: why do you ask?
Beth
--
"Hamish: Is your father a ghost, or are you conversing with the almighty?
Stephen: In order to find his equal, an Irishman is forced to talk to God.
Yes, Father! The Almighty says, 'Don't change the subject!'" (Braveheart)
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Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 03:09:12 +0000
From: "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: Re: RDT Right Now #1637
ooh, this looks interesting...
>Answer each of the following items "true" or "false"
> 1. I think beavers work too hard.
true, but why?
> 2. I use shoe polish to excess.
false (i don't polish my shoes...)
> 3. God is love.
sometimes
> 4. I like mannish children.
false
> 5. I have always been diturbed by the sight of Lincoln's ears.
umm... no...
> 6. I always let people get ahead of me at swimming pools.
on the rare occasion that i appear at one, yes
> 7. Most of the time I go to sleep without saying goodbye.
goodbye? to whom? my parents? no.
> 8. I am not afraid of picking up door knobs.
true... why, are people afraid of that stuff?
> 9. I believe I smell as good as most people.
i have no idea what i smell like, so true
>10. Frantic screams make me nervous.
true
>11. It's hard for me to say the right thing when I find myself in a room
>full of mice.
mice, eh? uh... false...
>12. I would never tell my nickname in a crisis.
false
>13. A wide necktie is a sign of disease.
wha? false...
>14. As a child I was deprived of licorice.
*giggle* false, though i never ate much since i don't like it
>15. I would never shake hands with a gardener.
false
>16. My eyes are always cold.
who came up with this? false
>17. Cousins are not to be trusted.
depends on the cousin. i trust allen, and i didn't trust kevin for a long
time, though he's slowly gaining it back because he apologized for sexually
assaulting me years ago and he's nice to me now... so false, because some
are trustworthy
>18. When I look down from a high spot, I want to spit.
depends on the quantity of saliva. false
>19. I am never startled by a fish.
uh... false...
>20. I have never gone to pieces over the weekend.
what? uhm, false?
so does this mean i have a certain type of personality? are my inner sexual
desires going to manifest and cause me trouble because i don't use shoe
polish? am i destined for a nervous breakdown at age 42 1/2 because i don't
see anything wrong with wide neckties? good heavens... i'm in for it!
brian asked:
>Has anyone ever had a dream where they've woken up, then actually woke >up
>to find that they dreamt they woke up?
yep, happened this morning and several other occasions over the past year.
usually if a parent comes to bother me about waking up but i only half-hear
them in my REM state of sleep, i incorporate it into my dream and think i'm
getting up when i'm not. hmph.
hehe i love your response to koba... you crack me up!
linda asked:
>Hmm.... How are seedless cucumbers, Brad?
for some reason that provoked an evil, perverted thought... that's it, i'm
going back to g-rated novels!
well, i had a lovely day, fencing with a small group of SCAdians and going
bead-shopping. i feel creative now.
-ade
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Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 03:26:11 +0000
From: "Madame Ade" <alexandriasisp@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: just a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down
what a lovely night for doing nothing...
koba said:
>whew! and i was getting worried that i was going to have to apologize and
>plead and grovel ade for forgiveness because i "insulted" brian.
well, you can still grovel if you want. my ego isn't 100% inflated yet, and
every bit helps :)
>and i too take offense- my ass isn't that hairy, you frog-stuffing
>spooge-towel.
what's a spooge-towel? it sounds kinda funny... spooge... *giggle* that's a
funny word... spooge... *laughs like a kindergartener who just said "poop"*
yes, i'm immature, but kiss my lily-white ass if you don't like it.
bedtime for the wee ade child now.
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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 01:45:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: horsefeather99@webtv.net (Ben)
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: Bells For Her
Cyndi--i agree with version on TVaB. Another great
version is on the Harpisichord performed in '96.
Ben
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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 02:36:47 -0700
From: burning leaves <jewella_deville@juno.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop...
"'ello!"
"did you just say hello?"
"nah, i said 'ello, but it's close enough!"
> In 1995, a member asked the question, "What Tori songs have
> made you cry and why?" Still a good question, so ... ?
oh dear... i remember the first time i heard china... i mean, *really*
heard it. for a long time, it was one of my least favorite tori songs.
but it was while i was in high school that the line "sometimes, i think
you want me to touch you... how can i, when you build the great wall
around you?" hit me. that is the most memorable and the first that came
to mind. at other times in my life it has been little earthquakes, tear
in your hand, precious things, (is it obvious that LE was my chosen
soundtrack for a long time?)... the songs that hit me the hardest have
changed as much as my life has over the years. oftentimes, it's not so
much the lyrical or musical content of a song, but a captured moment that
it sweeps me back to.
right now though, tori has not been the music doing that to me. i've
been all wrapped up in pink floyd, sigur ros, kronos quartet. the kind
of music that doesn't so much remind me of specific memories or eras, but
that allows me to get lost in my thoughts.
Dancing Girl mentioned:
"...right now I'm into Duncan Sheik."
i only own one duncan sheik album (self titled), but i've been craving it
lately. i think my favorite on that album is "serena."
Brian asked:
> "Has anyone ever had a dream where they've woken up,
> then actually woke up to find that they dreamt they woke up?"
strange this question was asked because this happened to me just last
night, over and over again. and every time i woke up, in my dream, i
thought i had *finally* woken up for real - only to realize, in my dream,
that i was still dreaming and had to try again to wake myself up. the
last few times it happened, in my dream, i called for my boyfriend james,
for him to come sit with me for a few minutes. he would come into the
bedroom and say things i couldn't understand, then i would wake up again,
and it would all happen again. when i finally DID wake up, i was so
extremely disoriented that i didn't believe it when james told me it was
okay, and i was talking in my sleep. i thought for sure i was still
dreaming.
it was horrible. *sigh*
wildkoba said:
> i thought i was going to have to get all serious and say things like,
> "i need to clarify...". maybe i could've done it in a 604693486
> question survey.
you COULD have, but then i wouldn't have been able to appreciate your
humor since i skip those obnoxious things.
> > I do take offense at "assclown", since that was the standard
> > address for Kevin. I'm not in his league, you hairy-arse
> > felching, gerbil funneling, cockwhore.
>
> and i too take offense- my ass isn't that hairy, you frog-stuffing
> spooge-towel.
funny, i interpreted that to mean the arses that you're felching are
hairy, not YOUR arse. unless you're felching your own? now THAT'S
talent.
by the way koba, i really like your website.
Cyndi asked:
> what do you guys think of this?
>
> *MAYOR OF SUNSET STRIP*
and in the cast overview, among others, were listed:
> Cast overview:
> Sonny Bono .... Himself
> Joey Ramone .... Himself
that WOULD be impressive, since they're dead.
....
on a fairly different note, i've just started (well, about a month ago)
working out. i have never been *thin*, but i was always comfortable with
my full figure... now, as i embark upon my 20s, i realize that if i
don't start taking care of myself, i'm going to make the shift from curvy
to lumpy... i don't want that.
after i moved about 7 months ago, i started gaining weight. call it
stress, comfort eating, laziness -- whatever the cause, i'm not happy
with it. this is the first time i've been serious about gettin' healthy,
losing weight. i've been a vegetarian for going on 7 years and in the
last month have worked on (fairly successfully) cutting out the fattening
foods -- bye bye fried foods, oh, it breaks my heart. :)
it's a constant battle, i tell you. a consuming, self-conscious thought.
so... i'm wondering if anyone has any advice they would be willing to
share? if you feel like it's an inappropriate/too boring/too personal
topic for the list, it doesn't have to be discussed here. i feel like
i'm making progress, but some words of wisdom from someone who's
dealing/dealt with the same thing would be great.
ah.. what an eclectic post, hm? tear-jerking songs, dreams, felching,
dead celebrities, and fat!
rock!
wake me up before you go-go,
jewel.
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