RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1705

RDT Right Now #1705

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Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 02:49:15 -0700
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 02 : Issue #1705 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o avril [ "Bethany Rusen" <hejira@u-town.com> ] waxing nostalgic [ MK <littlebluegrl@yahoo.com> ] re: slg suck fest [ "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlif ] smiles, shockwave riders, and romanc [ Teunis Peters <winterlion@greycloak ] the little legs hangng out of the cl [ "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> ] jesus dont want me for a sunbeam [ "Victoria McCabe" <victoria@muruch. ] [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] On September 5th in 1993, an announcement about a new album is posted, although the title is still unknown. In 1994, members discuss the Flying Dutchman myth, a member posts about going on a seven-concert Tori tour, someone who is selling an allegedly original "YKTR" cassette tapes tries to ply would-be buyers with the line, "It also still has that new plum smell that some cassettes have when you first get them." (?) In 1997, a list member posts details about Princess Diana's funeral and some of the immediate aftermath of her death, including the rewritten lyrics to "Candle in the Wind" by Elton John and Bernie Taupin. In 1998: a celebration of the one-year anniversary of the most recent reincarnation of the mailing list, Really Deep Thoughts Right Now. Violet put together an entire retrospective digest, including a list member's spoof lyrics to "Etienne," "ATM:" Oh, ATM, ATM, Press for English Enter your PIN ATM, ATM, Get some money, maybe I can spend as Much as I can In 1999, a list member writes about being "threatened" by a girl with fairy wings at a recent Tori performance on "Good Morning America," discussion of the band Days of the New, and a list member has a new book for sale (this book can still be ordered, go here for more info: http://www.devin.com/echoes/dreambrother.html). In 2000, art and egotism, one list member posts about whether or not violence begets violence, and if so, how. In 2001, list members answer the question "Which five people would you invite to a dinner party, if you could invite anyone?" More menstruation stories, Christianity and Wicca. [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] On September 6th in 1994, several reviews and interviews are posted, including the Tori interview with Sandra Bernhard from "Interview" magazine in which they discuss fake lips, fidelity, Kennedy the Republican MTV VJ, sexuality, the New Age movement and more! In 1996, two articles are posted, both of which refer to Tori as unintelligible and strange. In 1997, more discussion of Princess Diana's death, the MTV video music awards and Fiona Apple. In 1998, a list member posts about the difference between simple and simplistic in terms of Tori songs, pigeon-holing Tori's music and her fans. In 1999, more about Juarez and violence against women and, as one listmember puts it, "Tori's musical ability vs Tori's Goddessness." In 2000, the birth of Tori's daughter is announced, her name is yet to come. In 2001, more five people at a dinner party. [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] On September 7th in 1993, a member begins a formal-ish poll of favorite Tori songs and a "Greatest Hits of the Eighties" commercial strikes fear in the heart of one member, who protests that the Eighties weren't that long ago. In 1994, list members discuss lyrics from "Me and a Gun" that are excluded from live performances, the "least favorite Tori song" question is posed. In 1996, a list member gushes about the musical "RENT." In 1998, the orgasm-inducing remixes on the "Raspberry Swirl" single, meeting Tori stories, Francesca Lia Block recommendations, even more six degrees of Tori, dreams about teeth and what they mean, and long-lost 80s toys. In 1999, members discuss internet relationships and more Tori as a Goddess, resulting in this quote: Perhaps, but I for one think that if Tori is a vehicle for healing, so to speak, it is worth any number of Rock Halls of Fame. I place personal happiness above all forms of art, wondrous though the arts may be. Which is not to say that Ms. Amos has healed me of anything, because she hasn't, sorry to say. However, it's a fairly safe bet she *has* helped many people, and if the resulting goddess-obsession sometimes dwarfs her musicianship, so be it. Anyway, it doesn't actually make her any less of a musician... In 2000, lots of people post congrats and their thoughts about Tori's baby, including musings over whether or not her music will change as a result. To read more about these items, visit the list archives. [ ================================================================== ] Today's fuzzy ferret assistant: Andrea Norstad Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:04:51 -0400 From: "Bethany Rusen" <hejira@u-town.com> To: "Dipfucks" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: avril Linda said: "About the women 2 watch transcript... I'm kinda glad that they mentioned Avril Lavigne... I really like her music. I mean, it's kinda juvenile at this point, but I can see her really going somewhere. " Avril Lavigne just cracks me up to no end. this little girl pretending to be punk when she wasn't even alive when punk was big. plus Sk8ter Boi. 2 good 2 b 4 gotten. but then, little 9 and 10 year olds are coming into Borders and asking for it. i'd rather have them listen to her than Britney. -bethany _______________________________________________________________ a journal : http://hejira.u-town.com the centralia project : http://centralia.u-town.com "Why keep a journal? To stop time. To make a point about the pointlessness of it all. To have company. To be remembered. For there is so much to be recalled, with no one to do the recalling." (Ned Rorem) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 06:03:09 -0700 (PDT) From: MK <littlebluegrl@yahoo.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: waxing nostalgic Hey everyone, Just like Adam (who btw your post didnt bore me) .. I have re-subbed to the list.. Somehow I managed to trip up on some old posts I had made back in 1998 or something, and then I got onto the RDTRN website and was like 'holy shoes!' the list still exists?? Umm so I was in college back then, now im one of those working girrls.. living outside of Philly (wouldnt have it any other way) and doing the whole 9-5 thing.. grr. Consuming lots of coffee, and smoking many more cigarettes than before, but hey im in love and its ok :) Woj -- I swear I saw a posting of yours at the Sarah Slean Navy Soup list.. was it you? Beth Coulter -- hi hun, got your updates about the website, and the math course... so glad that you rocked that! :) Becky Wall -- are you still on here hun?? hope that you are doing well and that you are finished with school :) everyone else -- is there anyone who remembers me that i forgot to say hi to? :) its funny to think back to 1998.. i was a sophomore in college and still living at home (yuck!) had some massive problems living there, only to find out a few years later (2001) that I was clinically depressed.. sheesh! :( umm got to see Tori here at the Tower Theatre (yuck - it was going through renovations).. and there are some of the pics i had gotten from the show floating on the internet ;) umm if you want to see any of the creative things ive been up to: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/littlebluegrl otherwise, tootles and faery hugs to all! littlebluegrl ===== ' If I had some interesting quip to say, it would be here.. ' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 10:17:50 -0700 From: "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlife@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: re: slg suck fest Adam, three cheers to you for saying that you were unimpressed with SLG. I will just say that I think that album was pretty bad but I have high hopes for scarlet's walk because they're HER songs again as opposed to cover songs. She was trying to make a statement with that album by covering songs written by men and no one really got it. Plus, I think it cheapened her vison of WHY she even does covers. I was reading the album bio (of scarlet's walk) on the dent before mikewhy removed it and wow, that was just incredible. too bad tori's asinine management made him remove it because it was really great to read. As for her touring, if I don't like her album and she comes to Oregon, I won't go see her but I bet that if I do like it, she won't come here anyway. oh and speaking of decisions, I decided that if we go to war with iraq I'm changing my political affiliation to independent. I can see this happening before the end of the year. glad that west nile virus isn't here yet, jessica "I love you all. I love you more than life itself but you're fucking mad." --Ozzy to Jack Ozzy: What are you eating? Jack: Ribs. Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaahh. Ozzy: I want my baby back baby baby back baby back baby back! _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 19:30:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Teunis Peters <winterlion@greycloaklabs.ca> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: smiles, shockwave riders, and romance... > In 2000, this query was posted, why not revive it? > > Really Deep Think Tank: > > Quick, write down the first thing that comes to mind... > > What is one thing that *always* cheers you up? It > doesn't have to be the only thing, but what is the > first thing that pops into your mind when you try > to think of something you like that always makes > your day or makes you feel better or comforted? The right kind of smile... a happy thought - RDT's good for those :) and now some complete randomness Has anyone noticed a match between "future shock" and "Borderline Personality Disorder"? or at least a -lot- of correspondence. Mind you I like the book "shockwave rider" better for ideas... I just found out today Dick Chaney (issat right)? is vice-pres of US. This is what I get for being in another country - I thought he was a newsy of some kind. *grin* Canadian Senate wants legalization of marijuana - basis is "war on drugs has been out and out lost - at least in this case". This could be interesting. I personally consider the stuff just slightly less dangerous than either alcohol or cigarettes... both of which are controlled substances in Canada. I gotta respond to Succubus Barbie: > Lalalala.....I'm just megan the demon who seduces men in their sleep! Oh > yes I am! Lalala.... *grin* oh I like the poem it's like my home :) in some ways but your poem has many threads > *** September Already??? Holiday Over, Back To Work digest *** What holiday? The thing that rocks about my current job is I pick my hours - as long as I deliver the work that is. Umm I'm still looking forward to even an hour off for lunch *wry grin* Was at Viking wedding last saturday on a longship. houseravenspeak.com'll probably have pictures soon - the core couple of them got married. VERY romantic. I got to row *yay* Visting with Asatru Godi was fun - he good guy. umm more thoughts but I gotta go - I only got so much access to 'net. G'day, eh? :) - Winterlion -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 21:47:33 +1000 From: "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> To: "Arty Turners Walk" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: the little legs hangng out of the clouds Beth typed: >Holly, redstamen and I just got back from visiting Brian Cooper during his >stopover in San Francisco. We all seem to have survived the experience >intact. :) Now he just has to make it from SF to LA -- and >it's his first time driving in America. Keep your fingers crossed for him! You might be intact, but you still have to worry about being pregnant! And while you're crossing your fingers - STAY OFF THE ROADS!!! ;) Cindy typed: > Lavs, honey.. www.acidfonts.com should get you started on getting >that collection back to working order. :) Ooh, another site for me to spend hours on! I've just finished going through fontmaster.com, and got about 3/4 back, so I'm definately much happier about it all. Sadly, the same over-write situation must have happened with the Outlook Express folder I had on D drive and I lost all my old messages and address book. ~sigh~ I'm a hoarder, so there was heaps there that I never would have touched again, but I had a draft message where I stored cool ascii pics, another where I was noting messages from the archives with interps AND all the retros I'd sent (which I was relying on for links to the parodies). Oh, plus some fanfics I hadn't had time to read. I'll know next time to zip these suckers. Speaking of fonts though, no one happens to have 'Crawlers' or 'Anne Crawlers' it might have been called? I'd have to pay to get it back :( Must go check out BamBam... if I can tear myself away from font sites! Simon typed: >so many computer games, so little time ;) you act as if computers weren't >made for games :) Of course to free up the computer you need a Playstation >2 :) Like Glenn needs any more convincing! Welcome back Adam! Glad you mentioned you'd been on the list before, I would've gone crazy recognising your name but not being able to place it (though I only know it from the archives). Well, time to get back to sorting out this computer... X Lavs (sig coming soon) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 08:30:42 -0700 (MST) From: "Victoria McCabe" <victoria@muruch.net> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: jesus dont want me for a sunbeam Yes I am alive. And drowning in email more each day. I spent the weekend in Indiana with some friends. Most of the weekend was spent being drunk, some singing karoake. Not pretty, but much fun. But then some Ohio bitch gave me a speeding ticket. Ohio is hell! Thanks to everyone that has replied to my posts or emailed privately or signed my guestbook or anything else I may be missing. I really appreciate all of your kind and helpful words. Sorry I've been such a slackerbitch with replies. My email account crashed a few times and I'm just lazy in general. Current read: Brave New Girl by Louisa Luna. The main character, Doreen, is very much as I was in high school. Sarcastic and lonely. For those that like mp3s, this week's selections on my site are from The Flaming Lips, Tom McCrae, Billy Idol, Dead Can Dance, and Norah Jones. Get 'em while you can. And I recommend the Flaming Lips and Norah Jones albums highly. Damn Amazon.com! I thought I was being all clever by pre-ordering Scarlet's Walk and the Buffy Musical cds at the same time to get free shipping. Then after I check out, I see that the new Tori won't be shipped to me until November 4th! Why me?! Why me?! Anywey... Cyndi: >has anyone ever noticed that the entire beginning of Icicle (up until Tori starts singing) sounds like it COULD be used in a movie Sorry if someone has already pointed this out, but I seem to recall that when Under the Pink was released, Tori said that the beginning of 'Icicle' was based on 'Onward Christian Soldiers'. Or was I hallucinating? Possibly both. > I'd highly suggest that, too--the all natural stuff I mean.. cuz >sometimes, loading your body down with lab-made chemicals isn't exactly a good thing to do. I tried the natural stuff first. Valerian, Kava Kava, St. John's Wort, etc. The Valerian helped me sleep sometimes, but none of it helped the depression and panic attacks. And I always worry about self-medicating like that. Just because it's natural doesn't mean it can't hurt you. My sister had a very bad reaction to St. John's Wort. But I do think that trying natural alternatives is a good thing to do. I hate doctors and medication and it has been the very last resort for me and I hope I won't need it for long. Megan- I loved your poem. I was thinking of the God video before you mentioned. >I don't understand snake cults. Why would they want to hold snakes? Does it make them feel special or get them closer to god or what? Why would you want to hold something that could easily hurt you? I know nothing of snake cults. But there are two reasons I can understand it. One being religion and it's ability to control and influence people. Many religions have certain animals or symbols that are sacred. I don't understand why certain Christians would want to hold a crucifix since it shows their deity being killed. But I realize they believe that's the right thing to do and that it brings them closer to their God. If someone believes that their religion or faith is truth and they are devoted to it, then they will do what the religion tells them to do. Whether that is to hold a snake or pray to a statue or confess their most intimate thoughts to a stranger or go door to door and preach to people that hate them. The other possible thing is just the allure of danger. I actually think holding a snake like that would be exciting. But then I like dark, frightening things. Some people get a thrill out of putting themselves at risk. It's the whole basis of skydiving. :) RDT History: >On September 1st in 1993, list members recommend and discuss >the fabulous "Griffin & Sabine" trilogy by Nick Bantock. I love the Griffin & Sabine books! I only read them last year, when The Gryphon was released. An amazing series. >Victoria- are things better yet? No. I'm guessing it will take 3 or 4 weeks for the Effexor to work, if it works at all. I'm still have the emotional rollercoaster. But I guess it's good that if it does work, I'll know it's not just a placebo effect. Though it was very discouraging when I had my first fit (as I call them) after I started. But I'm trying to stay hopeful. Has anyone seen Full Frontal? There one solitary showing in a small theatre here and I plan to catch it Saturday. Time to go. Victoria http://muruch.net o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o *** Blood Is Thicker Than Water, But Goldfish Don't Seem To Like It As Much digest *** To POST messages to this list: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Can't figure out how to SUB, UNSUB, or CHANGE ADDRESSES? Send a message to <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "help" as the subject. Digest PROBLEMS or QUESTIONS? Contact: <admin@torithoughts.org> Want your BIRTHDAY announced on RDTRN in 2002? 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