RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1739

RDT Right Now #1739

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Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 12:41:38 -0800
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 02 : Issue #1739 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o usa today article [ dances with virgos <woj@smoe.org> ] RE: Tori's "pirate" comments... [ "Dalsh 327" <dalsh327@hotmail.com> ] My Halloween day [ "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com> ] spin review [ dances with virgos <woj@smoe.org> ] Charm-ing [ "Julie Patrick" <hippi@hotmail.com> ] Re: A New RDTRNer Is Born! [ "Matt Smith" <mattsmith76@ukonline. ] SW and multiple episodes of crying. [ MK <littlebluegrl@yahoo.com> ] duh. the album. [ "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlif ] just deserts [ Linda <lindagyne@yahoo.com> ] bada bing, bada boom. [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] pop goes the waters [ "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> ] just sitting around being foolish wh [ illitrate <jai@illitrate.co.uk> ] Hit me with your rhythm stick [ Brian Cooper <ByteMe@smartchat.net. ] pardon the random thought. [ Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@ju ] [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] day off To read more about these items, visit the list archives. [ ================================================================== ] Today's fuzzy ferret assistant: Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:47:58 -0500 From: dances with virgos <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: usa today article <url: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usatoday/20021031/en_usatoday/458 0229 > Amos' 'Walk' goes in search of America's soul Thu Oct 31, 8:42 AM ET Elysa Gardner USA TODAY NEW YORK While touring over the past year, Tori Amos met many fans who were eager to talk. But one encounter made a particularly deep impression on the singer. ''There was this Native American woman,'' Amos recalls. ''She was older, and she hadn't come to hear the music -- she could have cared less. She just sat down and said, 'I have a message for you.' And do you know what she said?'' Amos leans forward on her sofa and lowers her voice slightly, as if to relay an important secret. ''She said, 'The white brother took the land, but unfortunately, that's all he took. It's time that he takes more.' She was saying, in essence, that those who own the land and those who hold it are two different entities, and that it's time they came together.'' Such theories and observations informed Amos' new CD, Scarlet's Walk, which arrived Tuesday. The singer/songwriter describes the album, her first collection of new material since 1999's To Venus and Back, as a sort of musical search for America's soul. The 18 tracks take a mysterious figure named Scarlet -- more about her shortly -- from coast to coast. Her journey invites listeners to reflect on events ranging from Sept. 11 to the forced Native American migration of the Trail of Tears, which directly affected the Eastern Cherokee family of Amos' mother. (The CD also allows access to ''Scarlet's Web,'' a feature on Amos' Web site including maps that offer more specific insights into the songs via photos, commentary and behind-the-scenes video footage.) Being a Tori Amos project, of course, Scarlet's Walk is considerably quirkier in its use of imagery and metaphor than your average historical essay. Scarlet may be a person or a symbol of something bigger. Amos chose the name partly to suggest a thread running through the story, ''because scarlet was actually a fabric before it was a color.'' ''Scarlet is my character in the story,'' Amos explains. ''She starts off going to see a friend who's a fading porn star, Amber Waves'' -- also the name of Julianne Moore (news)'s porn-star character in the film Boogie Nights, Amos points out. ''I go to L.A., to the other side of the 405 (freeway), where all the cheesy porn movies are made. I know there are great ones, but I'm not talking about the great ones. Poor Amber.'' From there, Scarlet embarks on an adventure that eventually finds her on a plane heading from Boston to New York. ''And another woman gets on another plane, but her plane doesn't make it down. Then my character feels what she felt before she died.'' Amos says she came up with the plane-crash scenario before 9/11, ''but I didn't know what it meant. I didn't know what some other references I was coming up with meant, either.'' When the tragedy occurred, Amos was in New York, preparing for a TV appearance. She was about to release a compilation of cover songs called Strange Little Girls and begin a tour. ''We started getting a lot of e-mails from people asking us not to cancel, because everyone was canceling shows, and people felt they needed a place to congregate, to just be together. ''So we went on the road. It was a time when people were telling us stories -- in letters, before and after shows. I've never experienced an openness like that, where people needed so much to talk, because nobody knew what tomorrow would bring -- or if there would be a tomorrow. People in different cities responded in different ways, but for once we weren't isolated. After 30 or 40 years of living in a grown-up Disneyland, where we felt no one could hurt us, we were finally experiencing what it's like to be part of the world.'' The experience fueled Amos' eagerness to re-examine her own Native American roots. ''The land has a story here, and it's not about King Arthur,'' says the singer, who now lives in England with her British husband, sound engineer Mark Hawley, and their 2-year-old daughter, Natashya. ''Even though many of us are part European, we have our own rich history and mythology. But we haven't handed it to our students and our children the way other cultures have.'' Amos is encouraged, though, by the rising profile of young female singer/songwriters who also are exploring issues of personal and social relevance. ''The winds are changing,'' she says. ''People want thinkers and poets and songwriters. There's always a place for entertainers -- we all love them. They make us giggle, and they make us want to sing and dance with them, and that's important. But I think we're beginning to get what could be the equivalent of the Laura Nyros and Joni Mitchells and Roberta Flacks of the next guard. If that's starting to happen, it's really good news.'' -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:31:54 -0800 From: "Dalsh 327" <dalsh327@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: RE: Tori's "pirate" comments... I have downloaded all kinds of things, but how were those "works in progress" songs getting out there to begin with? This is what happened when Lars went after Napster. The bottom line is that it's an "inside job", and someone she works with basically took her diaries. I think she'd be less upset if sex videos of her and Mark were posted on the Internet, actually... But she also has to realize that a lot of people are fed up with the prices of CDs, which are almost the price of DVDs, on top of having to replace them over time. I do have a problem with the record company's "coding" policy, because I like having a copy for the car that I don't have to worry about scratching, or making my own "mixes". But I also have a problem with people who want something for nothing, which ultimately takes away from the artists creating, the people working for the artists, and ultimately the people who do work for the record company have to be let go. It's cool that Tori has a good relationship with Sony where she can talk to the boss, but most artists don't have that luxury. However, I am slightly skeptical of her working for Sony, and wondered why she wasn't trying to go towards recording on her own label, or a smaller label at least. _________________________________________________________________ Broadband?İDial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:39:10 -0600 From: "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com> To: alexandriasisp@hotmail.com, djspeedythemixer@attbi.com, y2jgrl242@msn.com, Nutty_4_Dunk@yahoo.com, playboy_mommie@hotmail.com, nazTboo@libero.it, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, R-R322@webtv.net, wsjohnson@madison.k12.wi.us Subject: My Halloween day 10/31/02 9:37 pm My Halloween was okay...I had fun at school...it was an interesting day...everyone was very hyper. I didn't have a costume...too late notice. I just kinda forgot about it. My friend, Dan came over and we passed out candy, listened to music, and played games so that was fun. Happy Halloween everyone! Julie H. E-mail & MSN IM: JulieH214@hotmail.com MTV Member: JulieH214 AOL IM: JulieH0214 Yahoo! IM: Juls21487 _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free!İ Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 14:01:41 -0500 From: dances with virgos <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: spin review <url: http://launch.yahoo.com/spin/content.asp?id=92 > Tori Amos 9 Tori Amos Scarlet's Walk (Epic) By Laura Sinagra Let's go, USA! Shortly after September 11, Tori Amos embarked on a cross-country tour. She came back with material for Scarlet's Walk, an impressionistic travelogue that turns the American landscape into an extension of Amos' own freaky head space. On her 2001 covers album, Strange Little Girls, Amos Photoshopped herself into Eminem's nightmares and Neil Young's dreams; here, she projects herself into places, not faces, blurring her persona into the scenery to highlight deeper truths about both. Amos may still be best known for confessing deep secrets while bumping and grinding her B–sendorfer. But her real ax is empathy, and on Scarlet's Walk, she internalizes everything from porn culture to the legacy of westward expansion. As usual, her melodies stubbornly refuse to turn into hooks, preferring to twirl into new territory. But her approach suits the material, which flows like the colors on a weather map, from Los Angeles to Nevada, from New York to Virginia, gathering thunder along the way. On "A Sorta Fairytale," the album's pensive first single, Amos cruises up Route 101, wondering why good love inevitably lets the bad times roll. On "Amber Waves," Amos puts the SoCal skin trade on blast, while undercutting the song's go-along-to-get-along tempo with melancholy piano chords. The record's climactic tour de force is "Scarlet's Walk," a sÈance-style spin through the Gothic South, its title evoking both the deaths of American Indians on the Trail of Tears and Gone With the Wind's homesick heroine. All organs, horns, and echoing drums, the song wraps Amos in layers of down-home creepiness. A man with a badge asks her: "What do you plan to do with all your stories?" She tells him she plans to bury them with all the other legends, wisdom, and "medicines" squandered throughout America's history, then stretches the word terra--signifying both Scarlett O'Hara's ruined estate and all that blood-soaked, hallowed earth--into a little earthquake. This is heady stuff. But even when the imagery gets dense, Amos' generous spirit lets you in. Your land is her land. Of thee she sings. Buckle up. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:41:15 -0600 From: "Julie Patrick" <hippi@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Charm-ing The charm in my Walk album was a little snake. It just fell out as I opened the box! I missed Tori on David Letterman. Sigh. Lovin the new songs, though! _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:39:57 -0000 From: "Matt Smith" <mattsmith76@ukonline.co.uk> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Re: A New RDTRNer Is Born! > Shaelea Caitlin was welcomed into > our little blue world at 1:50pm on > Saturday, October 19th. Miss Shaelea > (8lbs, 10oz) and mum, Lavenda, are > both doing wonderfully well. Superb news, well done Lavs and welcome to the world, Shaelea! in other news, i read this in the "daily telegraph" today: "Drought-hit Australians have been urged to shower together to save water. Unattached people should take a shower with a 'sympathetic friend'." (Reuters, Melbourne) that one made me smile. i guess we'll be seeing a sudden explosion in the birth rate in the Melbourne area around August next year? take care everybody matt -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:36:01 -0800 (PST) From: MK <littlebluegrl@yahoo.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: SW and multiple episodes of crying. Hey everyone, Just sittin listening to SW the umteenth time and my feet are tingling.. (must be this icy lavender gel for tired feet i just put on them) ;) Ive heard this ablum so many times and some of these songs more often than not, since I had the sampler.. but it just took me til last night to realize what some of these songs are saying... i mean at the first listen of 'strange' i immediately thought of my ex. It has been a sordid relationship between us and finally dissolved over a nasty email i sent to everyone. who knows, he might still hate me... so i thought of how that song talked about things that i felt with him... 'strange' it was to do things without him included... then i got 'your cloud' stuck in my head, and i couldnt figure out why... i just absolutely love the melody she sings with the 'if the rain separated...' its just sooo perrty... then i sat down and *read* the lyrics and the synopses that she has said about that song (and heard it when i finally got my Scarlet Stories today) ... and it just cut me in two. I lost all reason and broke down... I had written Tori a letter in a card and gave it to Steve to give her at the show in Philly last year... and it dealt with my feelings at the time about losing my best friend, my better half and my arm and leg it felt like... she mentioned that 'your cloud' talks about splitting up and how when a couple separates it doesnt mean that she doesnt still have parts of him in her... it just floored me, and although this is merely a coincidence, i wish it was a real sign... since i really miss him. we're the type that arent meant to be together in this lifetime. maybe we were two trees that grew their roots to intertwine underground, covering up our love from everyone... yet always being part of each other. its scary that after 3 years how much of a person's lifeblood you can have coursing through your own veins... and how easily it is to have that blood poisoned when you allow someone not worthy of mixing in with that... i just found out that the guy i was recently seeing is now impersonating me by opening an email account after my 'real' name. stalking and harrassing are just not my thing. BTW 'strange' reminds me alot of Baker, Baker... and yeah I agree with the multiple packages being a bit whorish... but that's Epic ladies and gentleman... im guilty of buying all the different formats though :) BTW Julie H: I got a starfish and a seahorse in my LE's. and Im a pisces - go figure Id get sea life in mine! ;) ok ok enough ramblings... :) have a nice night everyone... littlebluegrl ===== ' If I had some interesting quip to say, it would be here.. ' __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 18:09:20 -0800 From: "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlife@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: duh. the album. hmm okay. this is one of those albums that takes awhile to listen to because it's extra long. i've had it since tuesday but i bought the limited edition on halloween. i got the purse. the whole map and lyrics on the back is wonderful except i want to put it on my wall. oh well. there are some songs that i can't get into yet like strange and um...something else. i think scarlet's walk (the song) is about america. like, that song itself. the sheriff reminds me of the president. yes i know the cd itself is about america but i think that song specifically. some songs that people are freaking out about, i haven't fully had the chance to sit there and say "ok this is wonderful." like i can't see new york and your cloud. i think that another girl's paradise defines what it means to be a girl when someone else has your man. (grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr). i was like "this is my life right now!!" anyway, i should just sit down, go through all the songs on repeat with the words this weekend. hmm. sweet sangria seems really pointless. anyway, as i just said, i shall keep listening. i like this album, it's just kind of like jello for me right now. takes a while to get into and can seem weighted down, sticky or light-hearted depending. lala. -jessica oh i saw jackass. really stupid and fucking hilarious. i want to crawl into bed with steve-o. love is either in your heart or on its way--frank sinatra _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:24:54 -0800 (PST) From: Linda <lindagyne@yahoo.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: just deserts Victoria wrote: <<Matt: >however it contains only the cd, dvd, map and polaroids. where are my >stickers and tiny pewter charm??< I noticed that you email address is a co.uk one, so I'm guessing you're in the UK (yes I'm clever!:p). According to The Dent, the UK (or was it all of Europe?) limited editions of Scarlet's Walk do not contain as many extras.>> I didn't get one either, and I'm from New Jersey, USA. I want my fucking charm. I guess that was my payback for the whore comment. Dammit. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:33:36 -0500 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: bada bing, bada boom. howdy! :D my jaw and head hurts so.. can't think of much to say. :P anyway, on with the replies! :) from an article that woj posted a while ago.. "A lot of fans are drawn to her music because she dares to go into these taboo subjects in a real in-your-face style," says Dianne Spoto Shattuck, an associate editor at Women Who Rock magazine. "Her subject matter deals so much with conflicts that have to do with sexuality and religion, feminist issues and her own experience with rape. There aren't too many artists who delve into those areas." I definitely gotta agree.. definitarootely. posilutely absotively. NuttyBakerGirl said: "Am I the only one that thinks that there is a competition between Aguilera and Britney Spears on who can be the sluttiest? Her video for "Dirty" is the most vile thing I've ever seen." I gotta agree. I GOTTA agree! well more so on the Christina bit than Britney. Britney at least keeps SOME of her clothes on, I say.. ugh.. Christina claims that what we're seeing now is the "real" her.. well maybe so but.. aaaaack! WHERE'S your sense of CONTROL, woman?? was anybody at the Tori MSN chat? I was.. my question didn't get asked tho. :P interestingly enough, Matt said of his visit to NY: "although the city as a whole seems to be very much back to business as usual, a great many individuals are of course still having a great deal of trouble dealing with everything..." ya know, we're all so busy thinking of ourselves (even in light of that tragedy) that we don't think to stop and think about how the people who were *THERE* are dealing with it.. so it's interesting to hear what you just said there about it--that a lot of people are still trying to get over it, in a sense. and Matt.. BLAST YOUR NEIGHBOR OUT WITH TORI!! do it! 24/7! prop the speakers against whatever direction he's in and crank the volume to its highest level! YEAH!!!! :D um Brian.. I like pickles. lol.. I guess it's kind of an acquired American taste kinda thing but I like pickles. lol Bethany on I Can't See New York: "it starts out with something reminescent of Horses, so light and airy, and just fucking explodes. God." hahah yeah I love that too.. I love it soooooo much!! has anybody else noticed that Carbon seems a little reminiscent, piano-wise, to Mother? Julie said: "Ok, I have been confused about God-faith-religion-etc. for a long time ... As I've been growing I'm realizing more things about it and not liking some of it." and then she asked us to relate our beliefs to her. well.. I can relate to those feelings. I've been through that before. my sister is a converted Mormon (her husband's a Mormon too. she converted cuz they fell in love, etc).. I'm surrounded by different types of religion in my life, PERIOD. on here and in the real world.. I love learning about different religions.. I'm a Baptist.. but my church (okay not ALL churches are this bad but mine is!) is a church for hypocrites. I haven't been back in years and I don't ever want to go back. I'll explain why later. I'm too out of it to really do so now.. happy belated bday to Johnny! :) Jessica on Chad's girlfriend: "she can go just fuck herself in the ass without lube" uh.. ouch.. and I mean OUCH. I hear it hurts without lube! love your poem, e. :) Brian said: "Your Cloud would be my favourite song as it's dreamy and matches the title." "your cloud" is one of my favorites too.. it sounds like a love song to me! :D Brian then said that 74 minutes is too long for an album.. um.. that's personal opinion, cuz I don't agree. it depends on the album and on how willing you are to take little breaks in between songs when necessary. Welcome to the list, Vikki! make yourself comfy! :D Linda said: "woj wrote: Subject: guardian and yahoo scarlet's walk reviews Then Cyndi wrote, immediately after: Subject: Re: guardian and yahoo scarlet's walk reviews WTF??! How do you do that, Cyndi? I'm so f'ing confused!!" oh, I knew it was sent to Precious Things as well as here so I made sure the reply was sent to here as well.. call it pure luck in timing. :D Bethey, good luck with your play. (I think I said that before but whatever. good luck! :)) :D Louisham said: "It's a nice feeling to be at work with the radio on and suddenly they start playing Tori and you stop all that you're doing and just sing along instead of Christina Aguilera constantly reminding us how "dirrty" she is." rofl.. hey in Singapore did that video get banned? the "Dirrty" video I mean? it's pretty fuckin' nasty if you ask me! :P Brian on my little sinus pill problem vs his flu problem: "Wanna swap?" no thanks. your day pills might knock me out too. it's the chemicals I think. it's so weird.. Ade said: "tori is happiness..." with a warm gun and cookies and milk! :D I got the little rubber snake. I WANT A PEWTER CHARRRM! *takes the snake and takes it to get plated or whatever..* Roxanne explained the comedic look about "Bowling for Columbine" to me: "Well, Michael Moore is a comedian who's speciality is political satire. Ever see 'Canadian Bacon?' The charm is his ability to reveal the stupidity (however subtle) in his subjects." I see.. so I'll probably laugh at the movie? Megan said: "I really really want to hear I Can't See New York. That's the only song I'm really excited about. I must hear!" well have you heard it yet?? IT IS SO GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! so is "your cloud" and "pancake" those three are my favorites. :D I love Gold Dust too but those three I could play over and over. :D Winterlion said of sex and the like: "But I -won't- do anything like that unless honour is upheld. People gotta respect eachother and stuff, right?" that's another damn good reason not to get laid just because you wanna!! a DAMN good one! Winterlion then said, referring to religion: "all the Christian missionaries that visited their countries died until they stopped telling people their beliefs were wrong.... that's the history thing but I suspect I'd be the same way in that society. Good thing modern days are much more laid back :)" damn right it is.. that's my problem with my religion.. we're pretty hypocritical.. well *I* try not to be but we meaning my religious group--the Baptists especially--are.. well I'm not very proud of it. I'm proud to say I am a Christian and that I do my hardest to uphold to my beliefs (be good, treat others like you want to be treated, etc) but I'm not very proud of my fellow Christians, ya know? it certainly fuels a lot of confusion and anger and disappointment in that area of my life--something that I DO NOT NEED. Daniel explained the TVAB track listings to Vikki and said of Bells For Her: "This version is probably, leaving out the delicate Album version, the most haunting reworked version for this track, the Piano loop wil stick to your Brain" UH HUH!! *nods furiously!!!!* it sends chills STRAIGHT up my poor little spine!!! me like! :D then he said of The Waitress: "The Waitress: You will absolutely want this one, after hearing you will play the track back, because you will probably be in desbelief, is THAT awesome. :)" oh, it kicks ass. it KICKS ASS. believe me! lol THAT version makes me want to form a band just for the sake of covering the song myself LIKE THAT! :D Victoria said: "I hate to see her turn into a marketing tool like so many artists." blame that on Sony. they're a pretty marketing-heavy company.. Linda, Linda, Linda.. if Tori's as sweet as she seems.. she'll forgive you! :D okay.. I feel like this one from me is.. well.. pretty damned disjointed somehow. forgive me. o_O *leaps towards a window and bonks head.. gets up and stumbles out of the door instead* cya! :D Sincerely, Cyndi S. Crawford http://www.platinumcomplication.com/cyndi/ -- http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/368/ciara_blaze.html -- http://learntothink0.tripod.com/learntothinkagain/ -- http://www.geocities.com/keyyooo/ -- http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=kittitude Tori Amos' response when asked to describe herself in five words: "I. Do. Not. Describe. Myself." ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:09:23 +1100 From: "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> To: "Arty Turners Walk" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: pop goes the waters Seems like forever since I've posted to the list! A quick thanks to everyone who sent well-wishes (especially you long lost lurkers). This is only the second or third time I've managed to get on the computer since Shaelea's birth, so I've been catching up and not much else. I'll get around to her (and Tiarna's) website eventually, and I'll put the full birth story there. But the short version (that may still seem long) was that 2 days after my due date I started getting somewhat frequent contractions that gradually got more frequent and consistent over the next 17 hours before we shipped Tiarna off to her grandma's and headed into the hospital. Not that things were desperate yet, but they had air conditioning and it was looking like being a scorcher (this was about 10am on the 19th). I seemed to be handling this labour much better (and I handled Tiarna's pretty well), so was half expecting to be told 'no, still another day or two, you may as well go home'. Twice after my initial check the midwives came in to observe me for a while (hourly obs), and I'm sure they couldn't have been far from the third check when I sent Glenn out to get someone because my body was wanting to push! I pretty much spent the next half hour waiting for the midwives to set up and getting increasingly frustrated at them telling me to breathe through the contractions and not push! Then of course when they told me I could push, the urge had gone. But they insisted. And I insisted that I couldn't (doesn't seem right to me to go against the body at a time like that). Then the urge returned, I pushed her head out, they were telling me to hold it there, but Shaelea was obviously as jack of them jerking us around as I was and just slid the whole way out! And you'll never guess what... 'Winter' was playing again!!! I'd re-done the tape with about half the songs the same as I had on the tape I did for Tiarna's delivery, more Tori songs, though Winter was the first this time. But yeah, probably if Shaelea had come when she wanted she'd have been born to Medieaval Baebes or something! Anyway, she looks sooo much like Tiarna at the same age, though much more of a sleepyhead. And I was definately much more mobile post-delivery, even straight away! I could have walked down to the ward, but there was no chance of that after Tiarna. Things are still going well, though I wouldn't mind settling into a feeding routine. And Tiarna is really enjoying being a big sister, she's so excited to have a baby in the house. Oh, managed to pick up the Scarlet's Walk lim. ed. on Wed, got a starfish charm (seems to have been a plague of them in Australia), but haven't had much chance to listen to the album, much less give it my undivided attention (oh so much to do!). Bah, it's another hot day so I'm returning to the loungeroom and the fan. Will have to read the digests later... X Lavs ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful - 'Merman', Tori Amos ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://www.freewebs.com/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage http://www.freewebs.com/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:28:27 +0000 From: illitrate <jai@illitrate.co.uk> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: just sitting around being foolish when there is work to be done hi everyone i'm a long time tori-listener, first time (in memorable history) poster i've been listening to the new album since friday evening and i just wanted to post to say how fantastic i think it is. (it took me a whole day to find the lyrics on the back of the map, and now i've got those too, the albums taken on another dimension) to me it has the feel of the early albums, with the technical quality of the more recent ones? does that make sense? i'm guessing it's the use of all the instruments that gives the 2nd feeling, and the lack of any "pop/dance" tracks i'm kinda glad about i'm a little worried about how much appeal this album will have to anyone not already a Tori fan? i've asked a girl to the concert in january, and i'm pretty sure she's not a fan of Tori's and her musical tastes are generally far more electronic (to be fair, as are mine). but i'm worried that this tour's concerts will be much more mellow, in line with the feel of the album, than the last couple of concerts i went to see, that utterly rocked!! (a strange description for a concert with one performer and 3 pianos, maybe, but they did). i read a few people weren't impressed about the outrageous marketing - surely that is Epic's fault? mind you, i've got the ltd ed from the states, and i wouldn't swap it for a plain cd :-) (i got a metal cat, or wolf perhaps in the box? do they all have those? are they in the UK ones too?) currently, my fav tracks are a sorta fairytale, Wednesday, pancake, Crazy.... oh, just about the whole album :-) :-) oops, sorry for the long post - i'm just love this album!!! :-) -- jai@illitrate.co.uk --- http://www.illitrate.co.uk -- ---- you're living, but you've got no soul you capitivate, but you hold no weight... at all so watch as i start to smile - After Every Party I Die - Sneaker Pimps -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 21:07:03 +1100 From: Brian Cooper <ByteMe@smartchat.net.au> To: Really Deep Thrusts Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Hit me with your rhythm stick Additional thought on the new album. I've finally figured out why the guitar part on Crazy sounds so familiar... it's reminiscent of just about any "trademark" Concrete Blonde track. I think my comments about their recent release "Group Therapy" are just as appropriate for this album, in that it's like the return of an old friend, though it doesn't really break any new ground. I also still find myself tuning out around the hour mark. Seeing the sticker of the licence plate "TORI A" makes me wonder how many obsessed Toriphiles out there already have one on their car and how many will appear from now on. Tori really needs to tour with a full band for this album. Some of the songs will sound a little thin without the tight rhythm behind them. Vikki introduced herself in #1736 with: >Someone mentioned CNNN, that show is just too funny! I love reading the >scrolling bit down the bottom, it just leaves me in a fit of laughter. that would have been me. I find reading the ticker and trying to concentrate on the sight gags at the same time a bit much. The segments that leave my mind boggled though are the ones where they interview Americans. I can't believe the number of people who take their bonehead questions seriously or how exceedingly dumb some of the people are. Note to Americans: if you're at a place like Times Square, Washington Monument, the Sunset Strip in LA, Venice Beach or the like and someone sticks a camera in your face - run, else you may be the international butt of the joke. >Anyway, thats all from me now, as my cat decided to unleash his wrath on my >middle finger, and it hurts to type! That'll teach you for giving it the bird! It's always good to see fresh Aussie meat around here. Matt wrote in #1737: >however it contains only the cd, dvd, map and polaroids. where are my >stickers and tiny pewter charm?? Haven't you got enough charm already? I can hardly believe all the fuss over charms and toys in the limited edition. It's just too much of a marketing gimmick. Why didn't they just include one single type of charm, so that everyone gets the same thing? I thought the one I got was most appropriate, which was the shoe. Shoe - Scarlet's Walk. But it's an album, not a lucky dip, so why is there so much fuss over the trinkets and not as much talk about the album? Brian -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:57:07 -0500 From: Cyndi S Crawford <cyndi.crawford@juno.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org, precious-things@smoe.org Subject: pardon the random thought. pardon my sudden random thought--but.. as good as Icicle is all on its own.. I wonder if Tori would EVER play it with her band. not likely, I think, but I'm still curious. I bet it'd be awesome. like Bells For Her was on TVAB.. :D Sincerely, Cyndi S. 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