RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1745

RDT Right Now #1745

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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:48:58 -0800
Subject: RDT Right Now #1745
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[ Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist ] replies [ "Simon Booth" <sbooth1@satx.rr.com> ] replies 2 [ "Simon Booth" <sbooth1@satx.rr.com> ] replies 3 [ "Simon Booth" <sbooth1@satx.rr.com> ] say the secret woid [ john bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.n ] Re: F#%&@ng ArtistDirect/Scarlet's W [ "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com> ] Ze Walk and Bowlng [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ] Your Cloud/Spring Haze [ "Logan, Deadra" <deadra.logan@tcb.a ] Letter to the Editor revisited [ Jim <jimphynn@mindspring.com> ] oh so happy [ "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> ] [ =======================> In RDT History <======================= ] day off To read more about these items, visit the list archives. [ ================================================================== ] Today's fuzzy ferret assistant: Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:39:53 -0800 (PST) From: Succubus Megan <Abulia@imaterrorist.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: hindi goodness! Hola mes amies! I just downloaded a kick ass hindi dance mix and my god, the sheer amazement of it! Hehehe... Oh hyper hyper hyperness! I got da power! Totally Sick Joke of the Day That's Entirely Morally Wrong: Q: What's red and puffy and knocks at the window? A: A baby in a microwave. ....I found that funny. I'm a sick sick person. I'm so sorry (not really. I just have a twisted sense of humor. Must be because I've been corrupted by dem dere lib'rals!) You should have seen me when I first heard it. I was both laughing and shaking my head, moaning in between giggles, 'no no that's so wrong'. *sings* If I was a rich girl nanana say I'd have all the money in the world if I was a wealthy girl nanana I've gone to find myself. So if you see me before I get back, please keep me here until I return. How Now, Brown Cow? Megan Christine Auffart *************************************** I never saw a Purple Cow, I never hope to see one; But I can tell you anyhow, I'd rather see than be one! --- Gelett Burgess (1866-1951) *************************************** http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/abulia/ _____________________________________________________________ Sign up for FREE insane email from tshirthell.com's E-Mail Hell at http://www.tshirthell.com _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you@yourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:59:34 -0600 From: "Simon Booth" <sbooth1@satx.rr.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: replies hello everyone! Beth- I'm still laughing at that Viking Kitten thing. :) jessica wrote: >cyndi, i wouldn't take my dad to tori because he thinks she's a whiny bitch. >:D lol. your dad is a most brazen heathen. megan the succubus one wrote: >Also, I used the phrase 'Yay for assassination' in an essay I wrote for >philosophy today. Am I going to hell? Not if you were referring to bin Laden, Hussien, or Kim Jong-Il. >Still, I absolutely LOVE informal essays! They're so much fun! Much more fun than those formal essays you've got to get all dressed up for ;) from chris: > It was nice of you to suggest that Tori deserved rape though, if that's >what you were saying...shithead. I hope that was in an article someone posted- I really hope it wasn't said by an rdtrner! linda- sorry to hear about the breakup *hug* sounds like things are better with the comedian though, right? sounds like skydiving was a blast. just before the jump, did you hear somone up in the cockpit say "What about Major Kong?"? Or did you jump from the rear door of a 727? ;) happy birthday Cyndi, nicole labbe, Jennifer, Ana Cristina, Eric with a c, Johnny and of course a big welcome to the newest toriphile, Shaelea Caitlin :) cyndi commenting on what I said about people worshipping hummingbirds and puppies instead of snakes: >I guess maybe they'd play with >'em if the hummingbirds had west nile and the puppy dogs were rabid, huh? >:D I've never seen a rabid puppy but one of my parent's dogs is a small poodle mix, and it's funny as hell watching him trying to act tough around the big dogs. Snarling, growling, and barking up a storm, but always just looking like a puppy pretending to be a big dog. He's got a fluffy face, so I suggested that he could sit on the front porch of the house as a little werewolf on Halloween ;) also from cyndi: >Ade mentioned reading a bookcalled "sex and gender" or something.. >sounds interesting.. educate us!! lol Now if that were a book about people aboard a large bug-shaped spaceship it would be called "Lexx And Gender" ;) am I the only one who thinks it's really ironic that tori's NYC show is in a church? ;) Wonder if she'll used the church organ? ;) hey lavs- congrats. sounds like you and the newest toriphile are doing fine :) Glenn has an interesting job, getting to test drive trains. Although according to Brian the proper attire for a train ride in the Sydney area is a biohazard suit! from brian: > Now what does Tassie look >like? For the map impaired, Tasmania is the shape of a pubic thatch. The work of cartographers with dirty minds. Then again, I'm reminded of a joke about how if one looks at a map of the US, Florida makes it look as if the US is whizzing on Cuba. >If you ask someone that rides country trains or off-peak suburban >trains regularly, you'll hear some real horror stories. Beavis and Butthead >are cultured compared to some of the guys that take the train. Well that's just scary as hell. The bus and taxi services in the Sydney area could use that as a selling point to compete with the train service. TV ad showing Beavis and Butthead grossed out on the train and taking a bus or taxi on their next trip. julie- I think I was asking you if the show you were going to was your first tori concert :) Andrea- that was a touching Flight 800 tribute article you wrote for CNN. I wish more people in the media took the time to remember that there's a human side to tragedy. bethany wrote: >i like kissing bearded men. John shaves like half his face so i get the best >of both worlds, really. hmmm..... zz top fan, bethany? ;) email me your list of cds you're selling- I might be interested. did you get the job? julie- how did the "1000 Oceans" performance go? rdt chatroom? sign me up! :) > *** Blood, Graffiti, And Spit digest *** What are things you find on a New York subway train? ;) cynd wrote: >and it included a coupon for Allegra and a coupon or something >for Pepsi.. and I'm wondering if they're HER sponsors or just the venue's >sponsors.. thanks. I hope tori has no connection with Pepsi. As many of you know, Pepsi is used to clean the paint on large ships, and more recently, it has been determined that the manufacture of Pepsi violates arms control treaties banning chemical and biological weapons. interesting Astronomy pic of the day link :) > Arbor Mist brand White Zinfandel. delish. Thunderbird and Night Train are also good brands of wine ;) Sonic for Halloween. I should have guessed ;) the succubus barbie formerly known as Megan wrote: >Pray that you never see me dance. It would make you feel wrong. Very, >very wrong. Nothing compared to my unique style of dance ;) >Yay! I'm the one disgruntled >teen in the world that hasn't gone through a goth phase! I want my goth >phase, dammit! If goth teens grow up to become goth adults, will we one day see them on talk shows trying to get help for their kids who are dressing "preppy"? ;) Speaking of goth people- ever seen the TV show "Felicity"? Some funny scenes with Felicity's college roomate ;) brian wrote: >Anyway, I was tickled >when number 666 was called up to counter 7. While I was expecting someone >like Adolf Hitler or Saddam Hussein to turn up, it turned out to be a >regular looking family. Perhaps they worked for Microsoft. Interesting Microsoft trivia: Who were Gates' first business partners? Crowley and LeVay. What was the name of the first Microsoft tech manual? Nemonomicron Ex Mortis. And of course, it was a Microsoft logo that Motley Crue used on their 1983 "Shout at the Devil" album. more from brian, about "A Clockwork Orange": >Been partaking of the "milk plus", have we? Or maybe driving around playing >"hogs of the road" in the '95 Durango? Sounds a bit odd nowadays- Durango is the name of a Chrysler-built SUV. I doubt Kubrick had envisioned a future where the stereotypical vehicle of suburbanites also happens to be the vehicle of choice for thugs. >I think the most surreal moment of A >Clockwork Orange for me is when the cat lady gets done in by a certain >sculpture. Thirty years later the movie is still intense. In the US it was one of a very few films released that actually recieved the "X" rating, which was above the "R" rating- interesting thing about the US ratings system is that "X" was actually thought of as a legitimate adults only classification, but the porn industry co-opted it so the public assumed X always equals smut, so most movies over the years had never gotten higher than an R rating. NC-17 was devised in the late 80s but still, most cinema owners won't run movies rated higher than R, so over the years there have been some films released as R movies that actually were edited down from the NC-17 content. Although I would assume with DVDs having extra material added much of the censored material is put back in or made part of an outtakes feature. Sucks that the MPAA never copywrited the ratings system- if they had we might have been able to see more films in the original form intensed by their directors and producers. If a film is shocking, fine. I'll take my chances. I hate seeing a movie then finding out that scenes were censored based on someone else's arbitrary guidlines. "A Clockwork Orange" IMHO wasn't glorifying brutality. Kubrick was trying to show how society could degenerate to the point that such behavior could in some perverse way co-exist with normalcy, if that makes sense. Alex and his friend do evil things, and we see Alex later on relaxing at home like it's just a normal part of his day. about Florida: >The abode of a bunch of dipfucks who can't vote properly? ;-) The US >certainly got the dick out of Florida. but they weren't smart enough to get the JEB out of there! to be continued... Simon -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 04:02:22 -0600 From: "Simon Booth" <sbooth1@satx.rr.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: replies 2 me again! victoria wrote: >I have real hope for the first time in 3 years. And it feels damn good. That's so good to hear. I was having similar feelings almost 4 years ago when I finally got treated for depression. I too had the same misgivings about the meds but now I know I made the right choice. The meds don't totally cover up the down feelings nor do they push the good feelings into some artificial level. It makes the negative situations easier to process and deal with, and I know the positive feelings are real :) bethey- sounds like the play went very well :) ade wrote: >i'm being a NUN for halloween! the costume looks amazing! were you being chased out in the yard by the happy phantom? ;) megan and cyndi- interesting poems (Passengers and Can you Remember)! Also a good poem from e. :) julie- how did your play go? and chris/julio- have you gotten a grade back on your thesis yet? bethany wrote: >i just saw the "a sorta fairytale" video. god, what a shitty ass video. Must have been the one from a parallel universe- the one I saw was an absolute redefinition of excellence. brad wrote: >I have since changed my views So how many pieces of silver did you get? Welcome back Matt and Gaba :) beth- hope things are better for you. That was a really interesting bronte/tori comparison. And you've got one interesting reading list there :) migennes wrote: >I saw the video as streamed from MTV.com. Is it just me, or is Tori's >character a real live "ears with feet"? you know, I wonder if the concept was indeed inspired by the term EWF. Of course, there are also EWWs, and according to Cyndi, some who are an Ear with Feet ;) I agree with cyndi- www.snopes.com is an excellent urban legends site! welcome louisham! roxanne the nuttybakergirl (is there a nutty butcher and nutty candlestickmaker?) wrote: >Am I the only one that thinks that there is a competition between Aguilera >and Brittney Spears on who can be the sluttiest? Not the only one. Totally creepy the image they project and how despite that some people will still say they're role models for girls. matt- congrats on the new apartment and the new job. As for dealing with the downstairs neighbor, why not simply discover the volume control on *your* stereo. And walk around with heavy boots too! from brian about pickle excess: > Is there something in the constitution about >"thou shalt eat five pickles a day". I agree with you about the pickle overkill at some restaraunts. Pickle slices on a hamburger for extra flavor, sure. But yeah, the whole pickle that seems bigger than the hamburger you've ordered is a bit much. Same complaint I've had about way other "extras" are served. tomato, onions, and condiments are there for flavor, *not* to make the burger taste like huge tomato and onion slices with ketchup and mustard on a bun...on yeah...isn't there supposed to be a meat pattie in there somewhere? I think it's a throwback to when I was a kid and it always seemed like whatever veggie I hated ended up being piled higher on the plate than the main course. welcome vikki, another aussie, who wrote: >Someone mentioned CNNN, that show is just too funny! I love reading the >scrolling bit down the bottom, it just leaves me in a fit of laughter. that stupid scrolling thing has been on CNN and the other US news channels since last year, and it really is a pain in the ass- hard to follow, and mispellings and odd abbreviations creep into the scrolling text more and more. I'm glad someone has started spoofing it! from bethey: >We get the >costumes tonight (think "Gone with the Wind" picnic scene in 'Agonizing >Peach' shades) and with 4 layers of crinolines, an underskirt and the dress >itself, the costumes make a whole separate character. reminds me of a recent episode of "Firefly"! from ade: >tori is happiness... to the nth degree, of course! matt commented on SW: >the main criticism i've read in the uk press is that the album is over-long no such thing as a "too long" tori CD! speaking of SW, the question I'm asking is "where the hell is my copy?". I ordered it over a week ago from amazon.com. beth- that link about where the forrest creatures really went. wow! cynd wrote: > on the Scarlet's Walk DVD.. in the audio options, you can turn on >the audio commentary of Tori's.. er.. anybody know what she's saying? :D hmmm....is there a decent technical workaround? megan- how did things go with the midterms? winterlion wrote: >I'm Wiccan. With leanings towards Sufi Islam. as in dance with? ;) yes daniel, tori is indeed wonderful :) julie wrote: >I thought Tori's performance on David Letterman of "A Sorta Fairytale" was >beautiful, as well as herself, she looked absolutely gorgeous. dazzled by the supernova brilliance of The One! continued.... Simon -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 04:04:08 -0600 From: "Simon Booth" <sbooth1@satx.rr.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: replies 3 hello again1 victoria wrote: >ps. I signed up for NaNoWriMo- see you in December! what's nanowrimo? welcome back Guinnevere! :) linda- you must repent! julie described her halloween experience: > I didn't have a costume...too late notice. When I'm in regular street clothes on halloween I either just tell people that I'm a time traveler from the future incognito, or that I'm an aliem who's taken on human form to better infiltrate Earth ;) Halloween '98 I was at a friend's house helping with passing out candy and I was wearing my Plugged '98 shirt...so when someone asked me about my "costume" I said wasn't it obvious? I'm an EWF (or EWW ;) ). btw- any of you "Buffy" fans recall the time Giles told Buffy that the real vampires and demons hate halloween because of all the crass commercialism of it? ;) welcome back julie patrick :) lotsofhugs to littlebluegrl cyndi wrote: > was anybody at the Tori MSN chat? I was.. my question didn't get >asked tho. :P I was there, but things were moving so fast that I couldn't really make sense of it. and those damned ads kept popping in the middle of the chat text. where the fans were chatting, it was like a bunch of people crowded into a room yelling and trying to out yell everyone else. and my question didn't get asked either. I agree with what daniel and cyndi were saying about TVAB. the rendition of "Sugar" on that CD is really cool. and is it just me or does "bells for her" sound really "errie"? Not in a scary sense, but where you get this shiver feeling when it starts. wow lavs! winter playing both times :) and am I mistaken or do you actually not have air conditioning in your house? places prone to heat, it ought to be a standard feature! now you're saying tiarna is excited but it's been my experience that siblings relatively close in age don't get along...or else that might just be someone weird about my family. ;) All joking aside, my sister is 3 1/2 years younger than me and while I *though* my family was messed up because of all the fighting that went on for a period of time, it turns out that everyone assume their respective families are strange like that ;) And for the record, I get along fine with my family nowadays :) although I do hope my sister and her husband choose to live here in San Antonio when they return from the UK. that way my parents will drop in to visit them and thus won't be as apt to come by my place as often ;) welcome back jai! hope the girl you asked to the concert is a new convert :) brian wrote: >Seeing the sticker of the licence plate "TORI A" makes me wonder how many >obsessed Toriphiles out there already have one on their car and how many >will appear from now on. not "obsessed". the correct term is devoted and inspired. such plates can be a means by which EWFs can identify themselves while on the road. and now that you all have seen this written about here, I know some of you will unconciously be looking for TORI A plates on cars! ;) replying to vikki: >>Anyway, thats all from me now, as my cat decided to unleash his wrath on my >>middle finger, and it hurts to type! > >That'll teach you for giving it the bird! And I thought for Aussies it was the two-fingered salute (reverse victory or peace sigh)! megan- *hugs* sorry your mom could be so insensitive. I get really irked about the whole weight issue. Yes, as a health issue, I understand, but making a huge issue out of it purely regarding appearance just sucks. And if someone is going to chide someone else about their weight the least they could do is actually contribute something *useful* about how to lose weight. I've said it here before- I'm all for getting into better shape but it pisses me off that for persons in wheelchairs the only image of being active that's presented is either ubermacho guys or pretty girls wheeling about, and no one gets it that it's just plain wrong that those stereotypial images are even more aggressively pushed among disabled persons than they are in the general public. The weight issue goes the other way as well- my friend Kristin is 5'6" and a little thin, and in good health, and yet she's occasionally had people looking at her and assuming that either she's ill or has an eating disorder! Again, I can understand some of the concern, but making assumptions about people just because they weigh a little more or less than the (bogus!) "norm" or don't all look like celbrities really pisses me off. btw- ever watched the show "The Practice"? congrats bethey, it sounds like the play went well :) littlebluegrl- hope you're recovering from that fall! ana christina- there's an easy way to fix that aohell problem. switch to a better isp ;) brian wrote: >Now that I'd be more than happy to download. one who downloads such video material is as surely damned as the originator. and besides, such video footage would by default be declared fake. and the future scenario you describe: never even joke about such things. such a future is truly unthinkable. eternal darkness beyond imagination. welcome mary! ade- really excellent reply to megan's posting! brad the blasphemer wrote: >the new tori cd is not so good. that's all i have to say. and even that is too much. damning yourself beyond redemption. arija wrote: >and i think she looked weird on letterman. you mean "uniquely beautiful" :) >p.s. i like tori's harpsichord phase better than her rhodes phase. >thoughts? I like all her phases equally :) jim g- great letter to the editor. my sentiments exactly. Shannon Zimmerman, flirting with damnnation. welcome rebecca dent. where's arthur? ;) good reply to megan- changing one's appearance above everthing else should be done for *you*! really sucks that even at a time where tolerance is really promoted it's still seen as perfectly ok to viciously attack people merely for not conforming to assinine societal rules about "appearance". welcome erica! bethey wrote: >Re Tori and Botox: After seeing her on Letterman and Regis, no one can tell >me she ISN'T using Botox. surely you jest! it's simply not possible, for it is impossible to improve upon perfection. any word on the photo project grade yet? daniel- bizarre dream indeed! julie- sorry about the friendship problems. only thing I can offer is that after high school things really will get better. *hug* congrats on those grades. brad wrote: >Subject: Flaming Liberals Have Flamed by the light of Republicons' burning crosses. >And approve now all the judges that >have been held up by Demokraps can now be confirmed. judges wearing white robes no doubt. wonder if the hoods will be optional. >It's an all new and better world for all you poor lost souls who have >been indoctrinated by liberal schools for all these years. is that the "better world" described in the book "My Struggle"? so cyndi, how was the concert? ;) seriously, you sound like I did when I was describing my first tori concert (the AT 0035 tour). I said it then, and I'll say it again. such intensity, like piloting a spaceship into a supernova and wanting more :) lavs wrote: >Still haven't got photos of Shaelea up yet (it does help if you remember to >scan them). get a digital camera and you won't have to worry about that :) roxanne- you too posted a great response to megan's posting about weight. so you're hoping to learn to ski? I keep thinking that I could ski, provided some sort of MacGyver job can be done to my chair to make it snow-worthy ;) I like tori's closing comment in the atlanta journal-constitution interview :) mark- sounds like your trip to houston was fun. I didn't know the old control room at the NASA center was still in place. I just assumed that the whole thing was totally retrofitted in the mid 90s. Must have been cool seeing the control room used from the mid-60s, through the moon missions, and all the way through all the shuttle flights into the early 90s. Did you see the Saturn V rocket on display outside? IMHO it's sad that the technology to get to the moon has seemingly been deliberately forgotten. welcome miriam and reed! and for now, that's it from me! later! We live for The One, We die for The One -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 06:24:37 -0500 (EST) From: john bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.net> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: say the secret woid arija asked: > this made me think, how many of you have passwords to your > boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse's email accounts? Nope. I do remember a girlfriend (many many years ago) badgering me endlessly at an ATM at 2:00am one night (we were both drunk) to tell her my password, and finally I gave in and then we had another big fight (don't you love couples who fight in public in the middle of the night in well-lighted areas where everybody walking by can watch like it's a form of entertainment?) because my password was the secret middle name of a previous girlfriend who she hated. She also told me hers (fair is fair), but I forgot it immediately. She never had any money anyway. As for your old RDT posts, I don't see why he felt weird ("vaguely like he was violating me by reading those"). They were public posts. It's not like reading somebody's email. Brian said: > I'm slowly coming to the opinion this album would make great elevator > music, I'm thinking this is why the album seems "too long." Not that it's really "too long" (how can you have too much music, if it's good?), but there's not much variety, of tempo or dynamics or texture or mood. I think it might be less noticeable if there were fewer songs. > A judicial system biased far to the right is likely to overturn the > democratic right to abortion, along with other similar social issues, That's on the agenda, I'm afraid. > The only thing that concerns me is that Dubya will have advisers behind him > who are hell bent on a war with Iraq and will do so without UN consent. Well, they've made it pretty clear that they're going ahead, support or no, and I have no reason to disbelieve them. > It would be a purely promotional exercise. I think this album has been promoted every which way they can think of, which can be annoying in the short run, but in six months nobody will even remember. It's the music which matters. "Exile on Main Street" had all kinds of promotion as well (and it also came with little post cards, as I recall), but nobody talks or thinks about that now. They still listen to the music, though. Lavs said: > I don't know that there's anyone (though there probably is) who got > the Lim Ed solely for the charm. I didn't get it at all, I got the regular version, and I'm happy I did. The only real reason to get the fancy version is the DVD, and I don't watch music videos and I don't own a DVD player, so that was a pretty easy decision. Plus no access to the web thing because I'm running Linux, so I'm free to concentrate on the music. As B/4, John -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:07:44 -0600 From: "Julie H." <julieh214@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: Re: F#%&@ng ArtistDirect/Scarlet's Web 11/12/02 8:06 pm Oh gosh, Deadra, that is so frustrating that you haven't got your stuff from that damn company yet. If you never get it...try eBay and see if they have the limited edition. My brother got his the day before the album was officially released, but I'm not sure what company he ordered from. He got mine at a release party. I really hope you get it. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:50:39 -0500 From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Ze Walk and Bowlng I'm not prepared to give real thoughts about SW yet. I've heard it about 10 times (I take a long drive to school and therapy so can listen to the whole thing as I'm driving), and it's still growing and dawning on me. I haven't even read the lyrics yet, because I want to hear what I think I'm hearing first. Needless to say, I'm unable to make any coherent statements on my reactions. Cause I'm still reacting, deeper and deeper with each listen. I do love the honky tonk of Wednesday, and I plan on putting it in shuffle with "Pink" and "Choirgirl" when I have time to hear the connections I think I'm hearing, musically and lyrically. Everytime I listen to it, more thoughts come to mind, like Carbon. If you compress carbon hard enough, you get diamonds. And John B., Yes, Wednesday strikes me as being about 9/12. And didn't I hear somewhere that "I Can't See New York" was written prior to 9/11, but the events made her feel more poignant about the lyrics? Or was that someone else I heard about? I hope everyone is enjoying Scarlet's Web. I can't, because it doesn't work on Windows ME (of course). So I can either downgrade or upgrade, neither of which will happen in the near future. And the Peter Pan flights (the Pedro pan song) is about how Cuban parents sent their young sons and daughters away on a special transport to the US for safety during the revolution. After Castro came to power, these families were forever separated. It's a sad part of history. I didn't get the special edition (no DVD player), and it sounds like it's good I didn't waste my money. I saw "Bowling for Columbine" last night for Video Production class and loved it. I laughed until I cried, then I cried until I cried. It is an amazing movie. Mike Moore is a true philosopher and asks those questions that don't have real answers, but sure as hell makes one think hard about America and guns. I also gave a moment's thought to emigrating to Canada, but running away never solves anything. I encourage everyone to see this movie. I have two peace marches this weekend, one Saturday with Cedar Crest College and then Sunday, Quakertown is having a peace march through the town. We should not go to war. After seeing "Bowling" last night, I believe it even more strongly. But it seems more and more, we are becoming a far-right "Soviet United States". Can't you just see GW pounding his desk with his shoe, screaming "We will Bury You!" to Iraq? Followed with "that'll teach you to try to shoot my daddy". Followed by, "This is not personal, but a global safety issue." Followed by death, destruction and the breakdown of global unity. And on that cheery note: Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when Everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say And I have always been a Fairy. www.bethcoulter.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:14:18 -0600 From: "Logan, Deadra" <deadra.logan@tcb.aecom.com> To: Tori List <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Your Cloud/Spring Haze Is it just me or does Your Cloud sound a little like Spring Haze? I don't know why but when I listen to the song, it makes me think of Spring Haze. Everyone needs to take a listen to them both and see if maybe I'm just going crazy or what. Maybe they're in the same key or something... I don't know... it's just that last night I had Your Cloud in my head and it sort of just morphed into Spring Haze. Let me know what you guys think! Puleese! Deadra ,,,^.".^,,, -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:22:02 -0500 From: Jim <jimphynn@mindspring.com> To: 52ndst@yahoogroups.com, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, CT5-Chat@topica.com Subject: Letter to the Editor revisited My letter was published, with minimal editing, in today's Philadelphia Inquirer. Although I've had other letters published in that paper, this marks a first for getting the banner headline of the letters page. Already today, I've received 32 e-mails, some of which were critical and others heaping praise. I intend to respond to all messages I receive. I've actually already gotten two which say literally nothing more than "don't let the door hit your ass on the way out." (Apparently they feel obligated to focus solely on my "Canda looks mighty good right now" comment and ignore the rest...) Unlike past letters, to which the respondents (both agreeing and disagreeing) have generally been thoughtful, heartfelt individuals with something to say, this one seems a bit overrun by people who don't have anything meaningful to contribute to the discussion. What follows is the generic text of my responses to those letters. I submitted that letter to the Inquirer to encourage and elicit some insightful debate, so I admit that I was, well, inciteful, in my words. I am writing these words at about <time and date>, and yours was one of <running count> messages I've already received. I've received some truly interesting, well-thought-out messages, both agreeing and disagreeing with my position. Then I received yours. This country was founded on the merits of the free-exchange of ideas. That is one of the purposes of newspapers, and the Philadelphia Inquirer is, in my opinion, an excellent forum for those ideas. Clearly you do not agree with my opinion; I have no inherent problem with that. But if you felt motivated enough to write to me, could you please tell me what, specifically about my message inspired you to write to me in such a manner? This way, we can engage in an intelligent discussion of ideas, and we will both come out better for it. I look forward to reading your response. Thank you for writing. Jim -- Jim Goldman jimphynn@mindspring.com ICQ: 6380342 www.mindspring.com/~jimphynn ---------------------------------------------------------------- "I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it." -- Thomas Jefferson -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:46:11 +1100 From: "Lavenda" <earth@comcen.com.au> To: "Arty Turners Walk" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: oh so happy Coops typed: >I say Lavs, have you seen the latest Bundaberg Rum ad? Not the "blue dress" >one, but the one with the drop bear. I nearly asphyxiated. It was almost as >bad as last week's CNNNN when the Microsoft Office paperclip was wandering >the streets giving advice. I couldn't get over a perfectly respectable I think I may have even seen it before blue dress. And don't worry as soon as I saw it I thought of you. Just hope they don't show the ad OS or your trick is blown. I did catch CNNN(N) last week and found it quite amusing. Must try and remember it. And yes, that darn paperclip... >Youknowitsmypethatedontyou? Thiscouldgetoldfast :) mmm, Dr Jackson will be back in season 7. I am a happy girl. X Lavs ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful - 'Merman', Tori Amos ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://www.freewebs.com/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage http://www.freewebs.com/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o *** Subliminal Day Off digest *** To POST messages to this list: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Can't figure out how to SUB, UNSUB, or CHANGE ADDRESSES? Send a message to <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "help" as the subject. Digest PROBLEMS or QUESTIONS? Contact: <admin@torithoughts.org> Want your BIRTHDAY announced on RDTRN in 2002? 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