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Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 03 : Issue #1855
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Tori Amos, "Thoughts"
In this issue:
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Tori Amos concert [ "Cyndi S. Crawford" <cyndi.crawford ]
introduction [ Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.de ]
kinston free press concert review [ ein kleines kinnemuzik <woj@smoe.or ]
and the boys get the girls in the ba [ "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlif ]
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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 02:56:03 -0400
From: "Cyndi S. Crawford" <cyndi.crawford@juno.com>
To: jodihorner77@hotmail.com, jcoffman@taurus.oursc.k12.ar.us,
precious-things@smoe.org, rdtrn@torithoughts.org,
lyricallacquer@hotmail.com, mikewhy@iglou.com
Subject: Tori Amos concert
*whew!* okay, as I write this, it is almost 1AM, and I just got back from
seeing the wonderful, beautiful, incomparable.. Tori Amos at Chastain
Park in Atlanta.
what a night.. what a DAY!
my friend Joe and I met at the Waffle House by the interstate, and I
hopped into his car and we stopped to eat Chinese food before going all
the way to the venue. we picked our way through, since Chastain Park is
practically its own town. :P so.. we parked.. and when we opened the
door, we heard none other than Tori doing sound check.
we ran to the closed gate and peered in.. and we could see her! she was
wearing a pale white shirt and some bright RED pants.. that was quite
fun.. so we sat around, and chatted with other fans (even tho we knew
there'd be no meet and greet), and I had my little bag of presents from
Joe and myself to her (for her birthday as well as her daughter's).. and
a lot of the time, I was sitting and hoping that I could get it to her
(and I still am).
finally at 6PM, we were allowed in. the ticket lady searched my bag (and
didn't think to pat ME down as I snuck in a camera.. tee hee.. I'm SO
bad.) of gifts for Tori and was like "you better not be sneakin' in no
cameras." I was like "I'm not. *stifles a snicker*"
rofl.. so we sat there.. and Ben Folds came out to a damn-near empty
venue since people were milling about, skipping the show, and getting
merchandise and food, but he rocked. his stuff was very very good.. and
he said a lot of good things about Tori especially at the end.. and I
really enjoyed how he made the audience participate in the songs by
singing along to his stuff.. humming along to be his backing vocals, etc.
it was fun. :D
so finally.. intermission. we sat through that. it was bloody HUMID. and
then the sun finally started to go down and cool off.. *whew!* only then
did Joe and I quit sweating like pigs.. so, at this point, the best way
for me to describe the show is to go by the setlist as seen below. :)
Wampum Prayer
this was pretty standard.. but we were getting very excited
because this meant we were just that much closer to seeing Tori tromp out
onstage and kick some ass. :D
a sorta fairytale
pretty standard too, but Joe and I both commented on her snazzy
outfit.. it was like her clothes she was wearing earlier, red and
yellow.. but long and draping and very flowy. we thought it was very
pretty. those colors work on her quite well.
Little Earthquakes
when this started, Joe and I traded excited and happy looks..
this was one of the songs we heard her playing in sound check. :D
Sweet Sangria
.. and so was this one.. so we were kinda looking at each other
and grinning.. but not really INTO it. I don't think we truly got sucked
into the concert until after Cornflake Girl.
Cornflake Girl
this one ruled.. it got people up and moving, for sure.
Bells For Her
it took me a second to figure this one out.. but once I did, I
was a HAPPY fan. VERY happy. :) she seemed to be pulling out some serious
gems for me today.
Siren
as soon as we heard this, Joe grabbed my hand and said "this is
SIREN!" so I'm like "what?... wait a minute.." and when I recognized it,
I was just as giddy as Joe was about it.. it was a great song to play.
perfect timing in the setlist, too.
Crucify
hahah! oh dear, oh dear.. I have to say that when this one came
on, I was like "oh shit. OH SHIT!" and Joe was like "what, what??" and I
just told him to watch and listen. it took him a second.. and when he
realized just what this was, I was very enthused and kept saying "SEE!?!?
it's so AWESOME!" another gem, definitely. I kept staring (or gawking,
rather) at the TV screens while they had closeups of Tori. it was
beautiful.
Wednesday
this was bouncy and fun. Joe enjoyed this one a LOT. I sat in my
seat and danced like the silly girl that I am.
(solo)
Crazy
this was beautiful.. it seemed to slow the pace down a bit for
us.. and it kind of calmed us down from that level of initial excitement
and buzzing of the show.
I'm On Fire
I SO did not recognize this one.. AT ALL.. but Joe knew what it
was.. I absolutely *LOVED* the way she ended it by breathing the last
line.. "I'm on fire.." like she did. definitely seemed kinda suggestive
like that, intentional or not. :)
Nights In White Satin
Joe and I both didn't know what this was.. but it was definitely
beautifully done.
(band returns)
Horses
another great gem for the night, mostly because Joe was so happy
to hear this.. and I always feed off of my friends' happiness, so to
speak.
Tombigbee
DEFINITELY one of the big rockers of the night for me as it's one
of my favorite bee-sides.. I was sitting in my seat, wanting to get up
and dance and so on.. it was hard to sit still.
Virginia
Joe was in heaven for this one, I must say, since it's one of his
favorites off of the album.. I thought it was great.. not one of the
favorites that I was rooting for, but definitely worthy of the listen. :)
Father Lucifer
OH yeah, this was a huge highlight of the show.. it really
knocked Joe over when Tori gave the finger during the "girls who never
gain weight" line of the song.. (and I'd been waiting for it cuz I knew
to expect it from the other reviews I've read) and when she did it, I
cheered and hollered and gave both fingers back.. it was hilarious. I
couldn't stop laughing till it was almost over.
Take To The Sky
I heard a lot of people clapping along while Tori slapped her
piano to this one.. it was a VERY good crowd mover.
I Can't See New York
the lighting, as usual, was beautiful, and the song was as
haunting and riveting as ever, however, at this point of the show, I
started to notice that Tori's outfit was.. *ahem* kind of coming undone
in the front and I wondered if she realized it. Joe noticed it too... heh
heh.. ^_^;;;
Precious Things
AHHH.... when she sang "with their nine inch nails... etc", I
swear I could hear the rest of the audience yelling along to the line. I
know I was.. and the crotch grab was the climax of the song (if not the
show itself).. and we all went berserk.
(1st Encore)
God
we couldn't recognize this right off, but when we did, we were
bouncing in our seats like crazy with ecstasy, and singing along quite
loudly. :D
Mary
I sang along to this one quite happily. I don't think Joe was as
familiar with it as I am, but nonetheless, I could see that he was having
a great time.
(2nd Encore)
Space Dog
this was another crowd-mover. some people were getting up and
dancing pretty much throughout the whole show.. and some people in front
of us kept standing up to do that.. so it was a great crowd-mover.
Doughnut Song
at this point, Joe and I knew that the show was almost over. we
both enjoyed it a LOT, especially with the band playing alongside with
Tori. it gave a very good and different perspective on the song..
Your Cloud
between this and Doughnut Song, I said out loud (pretty loudly
too) "PLEASE one more, PLEASE one more, Tori, PLEASE, ONE MORE!".. and in
my head I was thinking "play Your Cloud.. PLEAAAAAAASE.." so.. when she
played it.. I screamed. LOUD. I screamed so loud that the girls in the
row in front of us turned around and looked at me. I was THAT HAPPY to
hear the song.. and it was the PERFECT closer. I was SO close to tears
because my wish for the night had come true, and I was floored, and could
feel myself trembling from.. I guess.. the shock of it all. that has to
be one of the best feelings in the world.
all in all, it was definitely a night to remember, both for myself and
Joe. we talked about it the whole way home. I'd definitely do it all over
again.
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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 10:12:24 -0700
From: Beth Winegarner <echoes@atlantic.devin.com>
To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org>
Subject: introduction
John posted his introduction and so I thought I would do that, too.
I joined RDT sometime in 1996, I think it was, not long after my mom's
death. (I can't remember if this is one of those communities where I joined
and lurked a long time, or posted almost immediately). I don't think I
*ever* posted a real introduction of myself.
I've been online since 1991 -- modeming first, then the Internet a year
later. I've been here pretty much ever since. Back then I was in college
(studying journalism, and later sociology), and have since graduated, worked
for a little while as a music journalist and now work full-time as a
community news reporter and editor in Northern California.
I also got into Tori in 1991. A friend of mine had been listening to her,
and I trusted his judgment when it came to music. I thought, as soon as I
hear one of this lady's songs I'll make up my mind. I saw "Crucify" on MTV
and rushed out that day to get it on cassette -- and the nearest record
store was 20 minutes away from me at the time. Thank goodness I had a car. I
fell in love with it right away, but hated Pink when it came out. I didn't
get into UTP until 1995, and it was one of those "saved my life" kinds of
albums. I like all of Tori's albums, but Pink is still far and away my
favorite.
Other favorites of mine include Fields of the Nephilim -- I am probably more
involved with that fan community than Tori's at the moment -- Tool,
Metallica, Rasputina, tons of new and old metal bands, the Doors, Led
Zeppelin, Jeff Buckley, Lisa Gerrard, Apocalyptica, Dead Can Dance, and many
more I can't think of at this early hour.
I love immersive "entertainment" experiences and intense things:
Buffy/Angel, Baraka, Fight Club, The Crow, Almost Famous, Poppy Brite,
Caitlin Kiernan, Neil Gaiman. When it comes to books, I almost universally
prefer nonfiction. The last fiction book I got all the way through was "The
Hobbit," this past January.
I'm especially interested in myth and symbolism, adore Joseph Campbell to
bits, and am working on developing an understanding of my own internal
mythology (which is a lifetime task, believe me). I've recently taken up
painting, though I tend to do abstract things my smooshing paint around with
my hands. I also have a deep and abiding interest in the occult, and my
favorite authors there are Lon Milo DuQuette (who has the talent of making
demons seem funny and serious at the same time) and the late Tom Lethbridge,
whose crotchety approach to the world of hauntings and dowsing was
refreshing (and very, very British).
I tend to make friends with dowsers. And net.personalities.
I also tend to unconsciously correct people's grammar and spelling mistakes.
But I try to keep in mind what my brother says: "No one likes a grammar
Nazi."
I used to post a lot more personal stuff to RDT, and sometimes still do, but
in the past few years have become increasingly active in the livejournal
community, where I can more closely control who-reads-what and it isn't
posted under my real name. I haven't posted anything here I'd mind anyone
finding and reading, but I do tend to want to write about things *lately*
where some amount of filtering is appropriate.
Beth
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Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 13:32:23 -0400
From: ein kleines kinnemuzik <woj@smoe.org>
To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>,
rdtrn@torithoughts.org, toriphery@groups.msn.com
Subject: kinston free press concert review
<url: http://www.kinston.com/Details.cfm?StoryID=13604 >
Tori Amos delivers pounding, soothing show
By Jason Spencer
Staff Writer
Growing up, girls typically mature faster than boys.
At 40, pianist Tori Amos proves that she has weathered more than one
emotional storm and, to critics and fans alike, is taking a more
grown-up approach to her trade.
The angst and emotional turmoil that fueled most of Amos' early career
remains. Rather than a driving force, though, they fall in as minor
building blocks in the foundation of Amos' most recent work. Chalk it
up as experience.
The singer recently told a Florida newspaper that she considers her
latest album, "Scarlet's Walk," the opening chapter of her life's
second book. Amos gave fans a glimpse of that chapter Saturday in
Raleigh, along with a plentiful number of footnotes from the past.
In the few scattered interviews she grants, Amos has not tried to hide
the things now important to her - namely, her husband and 2-year-old
daughter.
The singer's angelic voice still breaks away into soul-stirring
wailing, though now much more comfortably. Biting lyrics still have
their teeth - they just don't cut as deep. Tension still underlies most
songs, but relief is much more apparent.
"A Sorta Fairytale," the No. 2 track off of "Scarlet's Walk," opened
Saturday's show. Fan favorites "In the Springtime of his Voodoo" and
"God" highlighted the early part of her Raleigh performance. So did the
sweltering humidity.
"God, it is so good to be back here in North Carolina. I love it hot!"
Amos, a North Carolina native, told the crowd after her first three
songs. That was the only time she spoke to the audience.
To some, though, the silhouette of the scarlet beauty's slender,
writhing body between a classical and electric piano spoke volumes.
Impressively, she often faced the audience, playing the classical piano
with her left hand, an electric piano with her right. Occasionally, in
a quick pause from playing, Amos would issue a dramatic sharp turn to
stare out into the audience.
Or through it. The fiery princess might have built her pedestal too
high. The further Tori delved into her extensive catalog of music, the
more apparent was the missing "edge" a younger, more frazzled version
of the singer produced.
While earlier songs seemed lacking, most of the tunes from the latest
album sounded better than their studio counterparts. Eclectic lyrics
from songs like "Crazy" - "He said, First let's unzip your religion
down' " - prove that she's still got it. "It" is just a little
different.
The old anger seems to be fading, but the pain isn't. Amos' slender
fingers delicately washed over the piano keys during "White Horses,"
making each note sound like a tear falling.
More than two hours into the show, the old Tori peeked through. She
playfully rolled her tongue during "Cornflake Girl," and seductively
rubbed her hands down her trim stomach during "pancake."
Flirting with the crowd stopped - albeit abruptly - for Amos to deliver
a captivating performance of the 9/11-inspired "I Can't See New York."
Awesome drums followed to introduce a knockout rendition of "Precious
Things," which contains one of several hints to the singer's past
relationship with Nine Inch Nails front man Trent Reznor.
Amos began running her hands up her legs when she delivered the
pulse-pounding hit from her 1992 album "Little Earthquakes." She seemed
to be just getting started when she ran off the stage, frolicking and
flapping her hands like a little girl.
Tori returned for two encores, leading off with a great performance of
"Caught a Light Sneeze" - the source of another Nine Inch Nails
reference - "Black Dove" and "Amber Waves," a song about a reformed
porn star.
The singer wore a black mesh shawl over blue jeans and a black tank
top, and complemented the outfit with fluorescent green stiletto
heels.
Amos played an even mix of songs from all of her albums Saturday.
Regrettably, though, that meant omitting many of the tunes from "Little
Earthquakes," which is considered by many to be the artist's best
work.
For better or for worse, "Scarlet's Walk" seems like it will produce
more radio hits than any other in Amos' pantheon of albums.
Is it still rock 'n' roll? Maybe. But to the mob of 20ish women holding
each other's hands, Tori still speaks directly to each one.
Song topics include rape, molestation and coping with a miscarriage.
Now, though, Amos deals with her past with a pen and a bit of humor,
she said in past interviews.
For his part, North Carolina native Ben Folds, who opened Saturday's
show, seemed to have a blast. Folds began his set with a cover of
George Michael's "Careless Whisper" to a handful of chuckles. During
the song, he carefully paused to point out the "best part."
The young singer and former Chapel Hill performer didn't hesitate to
mention all the nearby places he's lived, including Winston-Salem and
Greensboro. He passionately told a story of working at a Hardee's
drive-through, and occasionally being allowed to drive the company's
delivery truck to its Rocky Mount headquarters.
Ben Folds named his high school nemesis. He told a story about someone
on acid who climbed a tree and became a born-again Christian. His
playful, philosophic musings focused on angry, middle-class white guys.
He directed an audience sing-along from on top of a piano.
Ben Folds' performance was much more fun. But then again, boys don't
mature as fast as girls.
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Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 20:17:23 -0700
From: "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlife@hotmail.com>
To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org
Subject: and the boys get the girls in the back
cyndi...the penguin thing...well, it wasn't funny but it was kind of cute.
as cute as the st bernard puppy i saw at the mall today.
someone needs to fucking commit me to Underwear Addicts Anonymous. I bought
six pairs on sunday and five more pairs today at VS. how do girls that work
at victoria's secret not go bankrupt? i'd never fucking have any money if i
worked there. and they know me there so everytime i go in they harass me to
buy their breathless perfume. *sigh* i suppose i should just buy it since i
go in there every week just to spray it on. I think this should bring about
a discussion about the indulgences we all love. Here are my main ones:
paperback books, underwear, shoes and burning cds. i rarely get to do that
last one but it's so fun. the burning of the cd has to be one of the best
inventions ever. oh, and buying lip gloss. i have shitloads of it and good
damn thing it's CHEAP. oh and sleep. sleep is so wonderful.
I got the bowling for soup album today "drunk enough to dance." hmmm, it's
silly. it's satisfying my cravings until november 18th when the new blink
182 cd comes out. pretty much along the line of simple plan/all american
rejects. gotta love all the wannabe punk bands with cute boys in them pining
after girls they can't possibly obtain.
when i sit here for three minutes staring off into space, you know it's time
to close an email. maybe those 6 tylenol were too much for me...
-jessica-
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