RDTRN Archive - RDT Right Now #1874

RDT Right Now #1874

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Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:22:06 -0800
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Do not hit reply to unsubscribe. To unsub, send a message to: <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "unsubscribe" in the subject and body. o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Really Deep Thoughts Right Now Volume 03 : Issue #1874 . o - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - o . o o . o o O "Thoughts right now... O o What will become of me, o o Become of her, become of we?" o . o o . O O O - o - o - o - o - o - o - o - O o . o o o Tori Amos, "Thoughts" In this issue: o-o-o-o-o-o-o thought I had something to say [ Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net. ] Something's are too strange... [ "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.co ] new tracks [ Linda <lindagyne@yahoo.com> ] face [ John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.n ] atlantic records' "tori media player [ fingerpuppets <woj@smoe.org> ] weird [ "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlif ] Missed a digest? Pick up a copy at the RDTRN archives: http://www.torithoughts.org/rdtrn/archives -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:25:08 +1100 From: Brian Cooper <byteme@smartchat.net.au> To: Really Deep Thrusts Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: thought I had something to say Could have sworn I had something new to say but I guess it's just replies this time. John wrote in #1871 on Gaiman vs. Adams: > I liked the Dirk Gently books a lot more, plus they are really > funny. The sequence in the insane asylum (I don't remember which book > it's in off-hand) had me on the floor. It was hilarious, but it was also > really smart. I think you're talking about "So Long and Thanks For All The Fish". I tend to read Douglas Adams around Christmas and New Year as the are so short and I know them so well it doesn't matter if I put them down. I can also still laugh insanely at them. I think one of the most interesting thoughts he has in one of his books is that U.S. writers are prone to writing 500 pages of something that's not relevant to the story. Loopy Lavs said: >With Tori in particular I used to read the lyric book before or as I was >listening to it for the first few times. But now I'm trying to get away >from that and just let the songs seep into me. I think that's been my problem in recent years. I've spent too much time trying to work out what is being said that I've forgotten that it really should be all about the music. Cyndi's thoughts on Gaiman: > intriguing.. I thought it was a great read. very descriptive and I > had my nose stuck in it the entire week I spent reading it. I found I was forcing myself to read it because of it being "very descriptive". The whole Lakeside section in American Gods could have been left out as it wasn't crucial to the main plot. In fact, it could have made a reasonable novel on its own. The story dwelt too much on minor characters which only seemed to pad out the book. While they were strong characters in themselves, it seemed a whole lot of verbiage for little return. One criticism I have of sci-fi and fantasy (of which I've read a mountain of) is that authors can too easily rigidly define their world, when I far prefer to fill in the gaps myself and create my own world within a few defined parameters. Definitely a case of less is more. Also if something is described that doesn't fit in with my version of the author's world I'll mentally switch off. I'd rather see well rounded characters instead of a minutely described world. All this talk of The Wall in Berlin... I've had it on video for years and have never watched it. I fear what's been done to the songs. Linda asked in #1872... >So, while I'm not asking whether it's the sole purpose for whether you >like a musician, do looks still count for something? If it wasn't for Tori humping her piano stool, I'm not sure if I would have paid much attention to her. I'm also glad there is a whole lot more to her but as much as we'd like to think we're not superficial, looks do mean a great deal if it's not the sound that grabs you initially. Hideously bad looks can work well for the same reason as you can't help but notice. Brian -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:33:44 -0500 From: "Beth Coulter" <betheqt@voicenet.com> To: "RDT Right Now" <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: Something's are too strange... Hey all! I'm buried in end of term work, but had to share what happened to me today. I've been doing my best to avoid *my* professor since the peace party (hell, almost a month!). It really hurt that he didn't bother to show, and it seems to me that if someone is my friend, they have the time of day for me. The Dean saw me today and exclaimed, "Oh! You ARE still a student!", noting my absence from campus activities. I'm not quite the drudge I used to be, but I've talked myself into being a bit that way, at least until my term paper is finished. And the less I'm on campus, the less chance of seeing him. I'm still doing my radio show (after a two week absence), but split as soon as it is done. So today driving to school, I'm cruising along fine and dandy until about 2 blocks from the entrance. I have a full blown anxiety attack sitting at a light. It was so bad I looked behind me to see if I was about to be hit. At that second, my Professor's face locks in my mind. He felt like he was so close to me, his energy, like he was in the car with me. I get to the entrance of the school and the big, fat SUV in front of me slows, a car turns in, then I turned in. It was the Professor's car. No Shit. I pulled into the first parking lot and he continued on to the other side of campus. I don't know if he saw me. How does he not sense this connection? Rather, how does he not respond, for I can't imagine he doesn't sense it. This sort of thing doesn't develop in a vacuum. But I'm going to continue to avoid him for a while. Maybe if I'm not about for him to watch (I feel like a tv program for him), maybe he'll miss me. If he misses me, maybe he'll think twice about this approach he has. Maybe. How do you throw someone out of your heart? If he wasn't there, he wouldn't be in my head. *sigh* Fate has a funny way of working. Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when Everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say And I have always been a Fairy. www.bethcoulter.com -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:14:59 -0800 (PST) From: Linda <lindagyne@yahoo.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: new tracks I keep listening to Tori's version of You Belong to Me-- it's so beautiful. Thing is, it barely sounds like her. She has that old-fashioned sound to her voice, which is actually pretty freakin' cool for a movie that's supposed to be set in the early '50s. I just downloaded Angels, however, and I'm a bit disappointed with that one. It sounds like yet another forgettable Scarlet's Walk track. I guess this is Tori's new sound. :-\ That's pretty much it for now... ~Linda~ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:23:53 -0500 From: John Bragazzi <utown@worldnet.att.net> To: RDT Right Now <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Subject: face Linda said: > (I'm sitting here, knowing that there's a term for > this literary technique, The onlything I can think of is "ambiguity." Is that what you were thinking of? If it's something more sophisticated than that, it's beyond me. Sorry to hear about the burn. Bad TV is probably the main culprit, as you say, though I doubt if the networks could be sued successfully. Too bad. > Do a musician's looks matter? Of course. Looks matter, and in this world they matter more than they should, but they always matter at least a little. There have been surveys which show that, overall, tall men do better in the corporate world than short men. It's a small advantage, but it is an advantage. Would I still like Tori if she looked like Karl Malden? Yes (reminds me of Groucho Marx' line, "yes, but I'd keep it to myself"). Would Rufus Wainwright be as popular if he was short, balding and fat? (Probably not). But our personalities and talents evolve in our bodies, partly in response to how people perceive us, and how they respond to us. So, for example, if Rufus had grown up short, balding and fat, he probably would have a somewhat different personality and he'd write somewhat different songs. Talent counts a lot more than looks, especially in the long run, but looks do count, too. But, especially for performers, looks are just the raw material, you just have to look at what you have and figure out the best way to use it. Tori is very good at this. Bethany said: > Everything from recording an album, to promoting it, then touring - i'm > sure it costs a bundle (actually, does a record label pay for > all this? i assumed but i don't actually know). From what I understand (not from personal experience), it's a complicated thing, but what it amounts to is that the record company fronts the money for recording, promotion and touring, but then they take it out of the money the artist gets from album sales. If you record one album, and it stiffs, you can end up owing your record company money (though I suspect this is never collected, I think it's just a loss for them). But the artist ultimately pays (if successful) and the record company takes a loss (if not). Rochelle said: > I used to seriously collect the Tori CD singles until I > realized that they were all remixes of the same songs I gave up on being a completist with Tori quite a while ago. And recently, in need of cash, I sold a lot of the singles to www.secondspin.com (which worked out pretty well). But that's one advantage to being a completist, it can give you things to sell when you need to. I once paid my rent with the first 51 issues of "Cerebus the Aardvark" (well, I had to convert them to cash first, I didn't just give the comics to my landlord). As B/4, John -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:54:31 -0500 From: fingerpuppets <woj@smoe.org> To: torinews@smoe.org, fiercest clams <precious-things@smoe.org>, rdtrn@torithoughts.org, toriphery@groups.msn.com Subject: atlantic records' "tori media player" this was mentioned on the dent a day or two ago but in case anyone missed it, here's atlantic's announcement of their preview for _tales of a librarian_. i believe you can listen to "mary" and "angels", in addition to viewing the "mary" video. it's a flash-thingie, so your listening enjoyment may vary. woj <url: http://www.atlantic-records.com/news/newsContent_2760461_2762053_main.jhtml > TORI AMOS RELEASES TALES OF A LIBRARIAN NOV. 18TH - SEE 'MARY' NOW Nov 13 2003 IT'S almost time for TALES OF A LIBRARIAN - the first-ever compilation from Tori Amos <url: http://www.atlantic-records.com/amostori >! The two-disc, CD/ Bonus DVD collection arrives this Tuesday, November 18th. To get a feel for what's in store, check out the new Tori media player <url: http://buzztone.atlanticrecords.com/toriamos >. You'll be able to experience the album's first video, 'Mary,' an amalgam of past Tori videos that'll take you back in time to some of Tori's past looks, themes, and songs. Amos has described the new release as a musical 'autobiography.' She has personally revisited and 'reconditioned' this compilation of original material, retooling the multi-track recordings to offer a new perspective on some of her most beloved songs. Among the tracks on the audio CD: 'Precious Things,' 'Playboy Mommy,' 'Spark,' 'God, ' 'Cornflake Girl,' 'Baker Baker,' 'Winter,' 'Tear In Your Hand,' and of course, 'Silent All These Years.' In addition, TALES OF A LIBRARIAN will include a pair of brand-new songs - 'Angels' and 'Snow Cherries From France' - as well as newly recorded renditions of two ultra-rare B-sides - 'Mary' (originally found on the European 'Crucify' CD single) and 'Sweet Dreams' (from 1992's limited edition 'Winter' CD). The bonus DVD features songs recorded live earlier this month during sound check of the final show of Amos' summer 2003 North American tour. Performances include 'Pretty Good Year,' 'Northern Lad,' and 'Honey.' The DVD also includes audio remixes of 'Putting the Damage On' and 'Mr. Zebra.' Whether you're a fervent fan or a new Tori devotee, this collection is not to be missed. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o [top] Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:29:48 -0800 From: "ms. jessica parsons" <fullblownlife@hotmail.com> To: rdtrn@torithoughts.org Subject: weird grouphug.us you can confess random shit. it's interesting to read. -jessica _________________________________________________________________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account is over limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o o-o-o *** What's This I Hear About A Paris, France Porn Tape? digest *** To POST messages to this list: <rdtrn@torithoughts.org> Can't figure out how to SUB, UNSUB, or CHANGE ADDRESSES? Send a message to <rdtrn-request@torithoughts.org> with "help" as the subject. Digest PROBLEMS or QUESTIONS? 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